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#21 Jadaki

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Posted 27 December 2006 - 01:06 PM

View Postgilbertology, on Saturday, November 18th, 2006, 9:21 PM, said:

Gilbert's new nickname/theme he coined for himself this year is "The Takeover". Must be a big fan of Nick Schulman.
Sidenote: when you give yourself a nickname, it does not make you cool.Also...

View Postgilbertology, on Sunday, December 17th, 2006, 11:32 PM, said:

Gil outduels Kobe
What Wade did vs the Lakers on Christmas day was more impressive than Gilbert's 60 points.

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Posted 27 December 2006 - 04:39 PM

View Postgilbertology, on Wednesday, December 27th, 2006, 12:52 PM, said:

You sir, and Jadaki, are both idiots. Arguing with Jadaki is like arguing with an 18 year old.I don't know any sportsbooks off the top of my head that have MVP odds, but I'm pretty sure Arenas' would be better than 260-1.If there were odds up right now he'd undoubtedly be in the top 3. Melo's fifteen game suspension hurt his chances a lot. So Did Yao's broken leg. Nash, Chauncey, and Gilbert would probably be co-favorites at something like 10-1 with Wade and Bron slightly behind. Again, it's still extremely early in the season and of course new MVP contenders will emerge and others will drop out. What I'm saying is that Gil will be a legitimate MVP contender for the whole year, it's what I've said since day one and what I will season after game 82.
Why dont you put your money where your mouth is then sir. Since I am an idiot and all. I will bet you 1000 dollars giving you 3-1 odds that Arenas does not win MVP. First off if you think Arenas is ahead of Wade you are the idiot. Arenas has been great with a solid supporting cast....Wade is carrying an aging team missing its 2nd best player and Shaq is a pretty big loss. Wade filling the stat sheet with 40, 11, 5, 4 and 4 is infinitely more impressive than one of Gilbert's 54 pt, 1 assist, 2 rebound games. Arenas scores points.....Wade scores and lifts his teammates to another level. Any argument that has Arenas ahead of Wade in MVP balloting, who is a better player, who is better looking, whatever is asinine and for you to call me and Jadaki an idiot sheds light on what you know about basketball.....and it isnt much.The fact is Arenas is a helluva player who can score in bunches....but he brings little else to the table. Nash, Bron, Wade....those are guys who control games. Plus you cannot examine Arenas in a vacuum....his high point totals are in large part due to the up and down frenetic style that the Wizards employ.
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 05:05 PM

View PostCaneBrain, on Wednesday, December 27th, 2006, 7:39 PM, said:

First off if you think Arenas is ahead of Wade you are the idiot. Arenas has been great with a solid supporting cast....Wade is carrying an aging team missing its 2nd best player and Shaq is a pretty big loss. Wade filling the stat sheet with 40, 11, 5, 4 and 4 is infinitely more impressive than one of Gilbert's 54 pt, 1 assist, 2 rebound games. Arenas scores points.....Wade scores and lifts his teammates to another level. Any argument that has Arenas ahead of Wade in MVP balloting, who is a better player, who is better looking, whatever is asinine and for you to call me and Jadaki an idiot sheds light on what you know about basketball.....and it isnt much.
Gilbert Arenas Stat Line against the Lakers:60 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists, 3 turnovers, 2 stealsThat sure doesnt fill the stat sheet.

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Posted 27 December 2006 - 06:06 PM

View PostCaneBrain, on Monday, December 25th, 2006, 11:00 AM, said:

Yeah I put Arenas' chances for winning MVP at 0.38%.....I will bet you 1000 dollars giving you 3-1 odds that Arenas does not win MVP.
Seriously, what kind of an idiot are you? Do you even have your GED? First, you say Arenas' chances of winning are .38%. Even if you meant 3.8%, that's about 30-1 odds you should be giving me on this bet. Instead, you offer 3-1!? If Arenas was offered at 3-1 at any sportsbook right now hed's be by far the runaway MVP choice on the books. Wade, Nash et all wouldn't be offered at odds near to 6-1. Honestly, I do not trust you in the slightest but I will wager up to $100 that Arenas will win the MVP at 30-1 odds. You're so sure he won't win that you think he has less than a 1% chance, so you should jump at this offer.Haters can keep hating on Arenas by saying he only scores, but he puts up great all-around numbers every night. Look at the statline Meservey posted above. Most of his games are like that. So far this season his total stats are not comparable to anyone else's including Lebron's. It is this brand of thinking of Arenas as simply a one-dimensional scorer that makes what he does even more amazing. Where would the Heat be without Wade, Suns without Nash, Cavs without Lebron? The Wiz would be in the same place this year without Arenas' contributions. Goodnite all and happy holidays. :club:
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 08:13 PM

View Postgilbertology, on Wednesday, December 27th, 2006, 8:06 PM, said:

The Wiz would be in the same place this year without Arenas' contributions. Goodnite all and happy holidays. :club:
Not really, the Wiz have enough talent they would still be a playoff team, exp in the East.

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Posted 28 December 2006 - 07:21 AM

View Postgilbertology, on Wednesday, December 27th, 2006, 6:06 PM, said:

Seriously, what kind of an idiot are you? Do you even have your GED? First, you say Arenas' chances of winning are .38%. Even if you meant 3.8%, that's about 30-1 odds you should be giving me on this bet. Instead, you offer 3-1!? If Arenas was offered at 3-1 at any sportsbook right now hed's be by far the runaway MVP choice on the books. Wade, Nash et all wouldn't be offered at odds near to 6-1. Honestly, I do not trust you in the slightest but I will wager up to $100 that Arenas will win the MVP at 30-1 odds. You're so sure he won't win that you think he has less than a 1% chance, so you should jump at this offer.Haters can keep hating on Arenas by saying he only scores, but he puts up great all-around numbers every night. Look at the statline Meservey posted above. Most of his games are like that. So far this season his total stats are not comparable to anyone else's including Lebron's. It is this brand of thinking of Arenas as simply a one-dimensional scorer that makes what he does even more amazing. Where would the Heat be without Wade, Suns without Nash, Cavs without Lebron? The Wiz would be in the same place this year without Arenas' contributions. Goodnite all and happy holidays. :club:
I made you a bet and you dont want to take it. So be it. I am pretty sure my educational background is on a slightly higher plane than yours. And by slight I mean leaps and bounds.I am not giving you 30-1 odds on everything. Just because I think Gilbert's chances of winning are virtually non-existent (i just love how seriously you take a joking number like .38% you are just going to keep harping on this arent you?) doesnt mean I am going to actually bet money giving someone insanely high odds. You think he is so great take the bet.....you dont think 3-1 is good enough odds then dont take the bet.Comparing the current supporting casts of the Heat/Cavs to the Wiz is hilarious. I think Wade would kill to have Caron Butler around to take some of the pressure off. It turns out Arenas is avg. 6 assts a game which is higher than I figured. However, considering the overall number of points the Wiz score it isnt that impressive.... neither of you addressed how inflated his stats are by the pace the Wiz choose to play at but tough ideas like context are probably too hard for you to grasp.
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Posted 30 December 2006 - 07:08 PM

Ok CaneBrain, I'm going to keep this thread on track so it gets back to being about all things GILBERT ARENAS. Plus, stating my educational background to you will just make me look pompous and conceited. Well, you asked for it. You can start with 1600 SAT in 9th grade, score of 5 on 12 AP courses, acceptance to every Ivy League school applied to, bachelor's in electrical engineering from a top university in the field, and currently working on my mba. Now, since this thread is about GA, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore about who is "smarter", or take you up on a ridiculous 3-1 bet.
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:48 PM

I like Arenas, and I think he is a very underrated superstar. Unfortunately he has almost no chance at MVP. The other candidates are more established and having an excellent season. He'll get some votes, but I dont see him finishing any higher than 5th. (But 5th is a real possibility).The Wizards absolutely rely on Arenas. Watching him play, I'm very impressed with the way he runs the Wizards offense. He keeps everyone invloved, creates oppotunites for others, and takes over at the right time. Since the Wizards play no D and are intent on out scoring people, Arenas is vital to their success. Those other players depend on him more than you think.

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 07:13 PM

View Postgilbertology, on Saturday, December 30th, 2006, 7:08 PM, said:

Ok CaneBrain, I'm going to keep this thread on track so it gets back to being about all things GILBERT ARENAS. Plus, stating my educational background to you will just make me look pompous and conceited. Well, you asked for it. You can start with 1600 SAT in 9th grade, score of 5 on 12 AP courses, acceptance to every Ivy League school applied to, bachelor's in electrical engineering from a top university in the field, and currently working on my mba. Now, since this thread is about GA, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore about who is "smarter", or take you up on a ridiculous 3-1 bet.
wow you are either full of crap or a professional student. go get a job. And I got a 1570 in 11th grade....so, uh, there.
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 06:08 AM

View PostCaneBrain, on Tuesday, January 2nd, 2007, 10:13 PM, said:

wow you are either full of crap or a professional student. go get a job. And I got a 1570 in 11th grade....so, uh, there.
I got a 760 last week.I don't come from money, I'm from the streets.
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 08:54 AM

View PostRon_Mexico, on Wednesday, January 3rd, 2007, 6:08 AM, said:

I got a 760 last week.I don't come from money, I'm from the streets.
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 10:39 AM

Gilbert Arenas was named Eastern Conference player of the month in December, leading the Wiz to a 12-4 record.For the month Arenas averaged 34.1ppg on 48% shooting, hit 59 3s at a 41% rate, and shot 80% from the ft line.He also added 1.8 stls a game, 6.2 assists, and 4.3 rebounds.
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 09:17 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Gilbert Arenas got the ball with the score tied and 6 seconds to play. He dribbled downcourt, read Charlie Bell's retreating feet, stopped and stroked a perfect jumper 32 feet from the basket."Once I let it go, I'm like, 'That's in," Arenas said. "I don't even need to look at this one."He didn't. He turned with a snarl and a strut, strolling away with his back to the basket as if it were another shot on the playground. The ball swished through the net, giving Arenas another signature moment to his growing legacy and the Washington Wizards a 108-105 victory over the Milwaukee Bucks."I thought he would take one more dribble," Bell said. "I give him credit. They say he has no conscience, and he doesn't."Arenas had three things working against him Wednesday night. His shooting shoulder was sore from a collision with Ruben Patterson on Saturday. He had to deal with the Bucks' zone defense, which always seems to rattle him. And he had to deal with the return of the old leather ball -- after he had won player of the month for December playing with the microfiber one.No matter. Arenas, who just might be working himself into MVP contention, finished with 32 points, 11 rebounds and eight assists and made the shot that counted most.
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Posted 04 January 2007 - 06:19 AM

View Postgilbertology, on Wednesday, January 3rd, 2007, 11:17 PM, said:

And he had to deal with the return of the old leather ball -- after he had won player of the month for December playing with the microfiber one.
I wonder how many different comparisons we are going to see with the new ball and the old one now.

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 07:04 AM

View PostCaneBrain, on Wednesday, January 3rd, 2007, 11:54 AM, said:

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off topic: For sho.I meant to quote Gilbert as well in regards to my joke.How's the wonderful city of Miami treatin you?on topic:I saw the highlights of that shot this morning. I though he was only around 5 or 6 feet behind the arc but still, kid has no conscience. He's a shooter in the purest sense. He's like John Starks, only more of his shots go in, and without the D. A shooter will just keep shooting. If they are cold, they think that they are due, if they make one,, they think they can't miss. Sick mentality most shooters have.
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Posted 04 January 2007 - 04:02 PM

View Postgilbertology, on Wednesday, January 3rd, 2007, 9:17 PM, said:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Gilbert Arenas got the ball with the score tied and 6 seconds to play. He dribbled downcourt, read Charlie Bell's retreating feet, stopped and stroked a perfect jumper 32 feet from the basket.
I didnt see the shot. Was it from one side of the court close to that hash mark (the one for the coaches box I think)?I'm asking because I've seen him make shots from there on several occassions this season. Almost the exact same spot everytime. He just pulls up before anyone expects. He's got to be practicing that shot.

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 08:37 AM

top of the key, only 10 feet behind it
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 02:40 PM

crappy youtube clip of his shot vs the bucks And here's a Wash. Post article about Agent Zero for MVP http://www.washingto...7010402038.html
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 06:32 PM

View PostCaneBrain, on Wednesday, December 27th, 2006, 7:39 PM, said:

Wade filling the stat sheet with 40, 11, 5, 4 and 4 is infinitely more impressive than one of Gilbert's 54 pt, 1 assist, 2 rebound games. Arenas scores points.....
arenas tonight: 35 pts, 12 assists, 7 boards, 4 steals

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