79 replies to this topic

[DrawingDeadInDM]

BigDMcGee, on Sunday, October 25th, 2009, 10:51 AM, said:

Oh.. You're just being stubborn. You know as well as I do that each and every play goes by the Head Coach before it hits the field or as it hits the field. The Head Coach isn't completely blameless, regardless of if it's the DC or the OC making the call. Deal.

[BigDMcGee]

DrawingDeadInDM, on Sunday, October 25th, 2009, 12:53 PM, said:

You know as well as I do that each and every play goes by the Head Coach before it hits the field or as it hits the field. The Head Coach isn't completely blameless, regardless of if it's the DC or the OC making the call. Deal.

If you mean " goes by" in the sense that it zooms right by them, then yes. Head coaches AREN'T play callers. They just aren't. Once in a while you have a coach like Tom Osborne that actually does the play calling (offensively, not both). But much more often You have coaches like Mack Brown or Bobby Bowden, that are the CEO mode, that run the program, but don't really do much game day other than call time outs or make key "go for it " decisions. Almost everything a head coach does that's important doesn't happen on saturday. This isn't the fifties where your play book is 30 plays deep, and the head coach makes all the play calls. You have a large misconception of what a head coach does and does not do if you think Randy Shannon is play calling.

[DrawingDeadInDM]

BigDMcGee, on Sunday, October 25th, 2009, 4:08 PM, said:

If you mean " goes by" in the sense that it zooms right by them, then yes. Head coaches AREN'T play callers. They just aren't. Once in a while you have a coach like Tom Osborne that actually does the play calling (offensively, not both). But much more often You have coaches like Mack Brown or Bobby Bowden, that are the CEO mode, that run the program, but don't really do much game day other than call time outs or make key "go for it " decisions. Almost everything a head coach does that's important doesn't happen on saturday. This isn't the fifties where your play book is 30 plays deep, and the head coach makes all the play calls. You have a large misconception of what a head coach does and does not do if you think Randy Shannon is play calling.

I don't think saying that Randy Shannon is cognizant of each play before it hits the field infers that he is calling each and every play.. and I really don't know how you came to that conclusion. He has a headset on. He hears the playcall (offense and defense) through that headset. He can change the playcall at any time and if need be, call a time out. Obviously, you can't do that every time a marginal call is made, but there is a reason he wears that thing on his head. Even in 'CEO mode', he's still responsible for what happens on the field.

[BigDMcGee]

DrawingDeadInDM, on Sunday, October 25th, 2009, 6:18 PM, said:

I don't think saying that Randy Shannon is cognizant of each play before it hits the field infers that he is calling each and every play.. and I really don't know how you came to that conclusion. He has a headset on. He hears the playcall (offense and defense) through that headset. He can change the playcall at any time and if need be, call a time out. Obviously, you can't do that every time a marginal call is made, but there is a reason he wears that thing on his head. Even in 'CEO mode', he's still responsible for what happens on the field.

[DrawingDeadInDM]

BigDMcGee, on Sunday, October 25th, 2009, 4:22 PM, said:

:sftrue

[CaneBrain]

BigDMcGee, on Sunday, October 25th, 2009, 11:29 AM, said:

Jesus christ fans are such doomsayers. If I'd told you that Miami was going to be 5-2 at this point in the season, before the season started, you would have been ecstatic. And now you're ready to hang shannon because Miami has got some press clippings. So absurd. Don't forget this team is extremely young, and will be returning basically everyone, before you go off blaming coaching. Also, if you insist on blaming coaching, you should be blaming the defensive coordinator for failure to call blitzes and adjust the defense, not the head coach. He doesn't call defensive plays.

Fine the DC sucks. That 5-2 came against a bad FSU team, a ridiculously banged up OU team, and two cupcakes. I know they will be good next year. But Shannon (or the DC who takes direction from him.....remember Shannon was D-coordinator at Miami for year so when the defense stinks I will be looking at him) will cost them a game at some point with overly conservative playcalling.And if you dont think the head coach is in charge of overall adjustments (like the decision to rush four every down instead of bringing pressure) then I dont know what to tell you.Plus, this just continues Shannon's "tradition" of not being able to win at home. When you coach Miami, you have to ****ing beat unranked teams at home. It's unacceptable to drop games at home to mediocre teams year after year.Also, I expected them to be 5-2. I would not have been "ecstatic". Unlike the media, I knew Miami would be better this year because I know from his high school career that Jacory has tons of game. I expected them to win all the games they have won except I figured they would lose to OU and beat Clemson.

[Jadaki]

[CaneBrain]

Anybody who watched today's Miami game against UNC now knows that I am not overreacting and that Randy Shannon is one of the worst in game coaches in the history of football. Atrocious clock management, refusal to blitz, refusal to go to the shotgun, wasting timeouts. It's like watching Art Shell in his prime. Does it matter that you can recruit well if you are so bad at coaching that your team has to win in spite of you? Mark Whipple is equally bad. Someone needs to tell him you dont get extra points for running screen plays. What a goddamn travesty.

[BigDMcGee]

CaneBrain, on Saturday, November 14th, 2009, 6:02 PM, said:

Anybody who watched today's Miami game against UNC now knows that I am not overreacting and that Randy Shannon is one of the worst in game coaches in the history of football.

lol

[CaneBrain]

BigDMcGee, on Saturday, November 14th, 2009, 7:14 PM, said:

lol

did you watch? seriously, everyone I know down here is going batshit about it right now. It was stunning. If you didn't watch, don't assume out of hand it is total hyperbole (obviously it is a little hyperbole). It was a nightmare.

[BigDMcGee]

CaneBrain, on Saturday, November 14th, 2009, 6:17 PM, said:

did you watch? seriously, everyone I know down here is going batshit about it right now. It was stunning. If you didn't watch, don't assume out of hand it is total hyperbole (obviously it is a little hyperbole). It was a nightmare.

I did watch the game. and yes, it's a little hyperbolic.

[Jadaki]

That and UNC just isn't a pushover in football since Davis got there.

[BigDMcGee]

Wait until next year, before you send the final verdict on Shannon. Your immensely talented, but young team will all be older. If they don't produce next year, then call for some heads.

[CaneBrain]

BigDMcGee, on Sunday, November 15th, 2009, 10:21 PM, said:

Wait until next year, before you send the final verdict on Shannon. Your immensely talented, but young team will all be older. If they don't produce next year, then call for some heads.

I dont believe in shuffling coaches in and out. Shannon gets 5 years in my book. But you are right.....if it does not happen next year (when they get FSU and V-Tech at home) then it probably is not going to happen. And my guess is they will blow a couple winnable games next year due to poor coaching. Hopefully, I am wrong.

[Freddec]

delete this thread please........this conf just got owned sooooooo hard today

[SGFULTON83]

Freddec, on Sunday, November 29th, 2009, 3:36 AM, said:

delete this thread please........this conf just got owned sooooooo hard today all season.

FYP

[CindyLou]

BigDMcGee, on Sunday, November 15th, 2009, 10:21 PM, said:

Wait until next year, before you send the final verdict on Shannon. Your immensely talented, but young team will all be older. If they don't produce next year, then call for some heads.

I think some heads are about to be called for.

[CaneBrain]

CindyLou, on Friday, August 19th, 2011, 12:16 PM, said:

I think some heads are about to be called for.

I was right that Shannon was a bad coach. But, the ONLY person who looks good in this UM scandal is Shannon. Apparently, he set the UM compliance officer on Shapiro to the point that Shapiro tried to punch him out. Shannon also repeatedly warned the AD administration that this guy Shapiro was a huge problem. They ignored him.I think Shannon had pretty impeccable integrity. Just a lousy coach on gameday.

[BigDMcGee]

CaneBrain, on Friday, August 19th, 2011, 11:24 AM, said:

I was right that Shannon was a bad coach. But, the ONLY person who looks good in this UM scandal is Shannon. Apparently, he set the UM compliance officer on Shapiro to the point that Shapiro tried to punch him out. Shannon also repeatedly warned the AD administration that this guy Shapiro was a huge problem. They ignored him.I think Shannon had pretty impeccable integrity. Just a lousy coach on gameday.

I think him trying to go after Shapiro was dumber than anything he did on game day. Let a booster boost, randy!

[BigDMcGee]

also, if randy went to the ad and compliance and told them to watch shapiro, and they did not, Miami is super ****ed.