AmScray 355 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Filed yesterday http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-nvd.../case_id-62859/ Plaintiff: Cycalona GowenDefendant: Full Tilt Poker, Tiltware LLC, Pocket Kings Ltd., Kolyma Corporation, A.V.V., Raymond J. Bitar, Howard Lederer, Andrew Bloch, Phillip Ivey, Christopher Ferguson, John Juanda, Phillip Gordon, Erick Lindgren, Erik Seidel, Jennifer Harman-Traniello, Michael Matusow, Allen Cunningham, Gus Hansen and Patrick AntoniousPretty massive insight into the ownership/leadership of FTP. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 HAHHAHAHAH What on earth for? Making her think she could play poker? Link to post Share on other sites
HubDub04 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I saw this on 4.Some sort of contract dispute.She probably finally found out how much Ivey makes/month and decided to sue for more on account of her having bigger tits than Ivey. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 From 4... In the complaint, she alleges the following ---Breach of contract/fiduciary duties case...In 2004, Clonie was offered (and accepted) 1% ownership of Tiltware and FTP in exchange for being a celebrity representative...Has worn FTP merchandise and promoted FTP in exchange for that ownership interest (no other compensation)...In May 2007, all Team FTP members received distribution checks but her...she demanded distribution owed to her, refused...Nov 6, 2007, Lederer offered to pay her $250k for her past performance on behalf of company, she refused cuz only fraction of what was owed to her...Clonie estimates company worth $4 billion...---Will continue reading and posting....this is just first couple of pages.If she has the paper work about the 1 percent ownership, then they are going to be pretty owned. If not, SOL. LOL @ giving clownie 1 percent, she's the most imagined "pro" i've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 You guys don't respect Clownie's game? She can use her immense beauty to distract us like the deadly Siren she is, and rake our chips as we flirt and drool. Also, she's a winner. Look at all those pageants she won. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 God, she's so young and gorgeous. Talented, too. Link to post Share on other sites
CrookedLink 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Cycalona...hehehe I lol'd Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Cycalona is gonna win this case you can book it Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Cycalona is gonna win this case you can book itWell, it depends how lawyered up she is. It's a solid lock that team full tilt has a better legal defense. But, if she can produce a contract, and they can't prove she breeched it, then well.. not much to be done. LOL @ howard offering her 250K, btw. Link to post Share on other sites
CrAcKeDaCeS 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 From 4...If she has the paper work about the 1 percent ownership, then they are going to be pretty owned. If not, SOL. LOL @ giving clownie 1 percent, she's the most imagined "pro" i've ever seen.It's no worse than having Phil Gordon as a "pro" But, it is interesting to see all the co-defendants in the suit. Do you really think all those people had a say in whether or not Clonie got her 1%? Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 It's no worse than having Phil Gordon as a "pro" But, it is interesting to see all the co-defendants in the suit. Do you really think all those people had a say in whether or not Clonie got her 1%?I think that phil gordon is a pro because. A) he wrote a book. B ) He had the money from a previous job to invest a percentage into a start up company. Link to post Share on other sites
CrAcKeDaCeS 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I think that phil gordon is a pro because. A) he wrote a book. B ) He had the money from a previous job to invest a percentage into a start up company.Yeah, I'm sure his investment is the main reason....and I know he did FT the ME way back when, so maybe that recognition got him included also. Either way, I still think he's a douche. Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Yeah, I'm sure his investment is the main reason....and I know he did FT the ME way back when, so maybe that recognition got him included also. Either way, I still think he's a douche.He's not on my buddy list either but he did win two WPT tournaments as well. Cyclona only won a ladies night game. Link to post Share on other sites
Nimue1995 1 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Didn't she win a PAD too? Link to post Share on other sites
CrAcKeDaCeS 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 He's not on my buddy list either but he did win two WPT tournaments as well. Cyclona only won a ladies night game.True....I can only remember him winning the Shooting Stars where Moneymaker finished 2nd though....what was his other win? Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 True....I can only remember him winning the Shooting Stars where Moneymaker finished 2nd though....what was his other win?Aruba, but looking into it now it was the "Pro" side.He had good cred early on in the poker boom but it's now a case of what have you done lately, and don't be such an arse. Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 He also hosted the Celebrity Poker show which was on for a few seasons. That's how he is known to the general public moreso than his poker accomplishments. Link to post Share on other sites
Stiles2004 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 It's no worse than having Phil Gordon as a "pro" But, it is interesting to see all the co-defendants in the suit. Do you really think all those people had a say in whether or not Clonie got her 1%?When you sue someone, might as well sue everyone, doesn't really cost anymore to add a few names... the innocent parties will be sorted out and removed from the lawsuitAlso, she's going to be absolutely hated on for this for her entire life, is she aware of that? Link to post Share on other sites
rawkodd 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 for what she brings to the table poker wise i'd say 250k was a pretty reasonable offer Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 When you sue someone, might as well sue everyone, doesn't really cost anymore to add a few names... the innocent parties will be sorted out and removed from the lawsuitAlso, she's going to be absolutely hated on for this for her entire life, is she aware of that?[/quote 10 million or so might ease the pain of being hated. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Also, she's going to be absolutely hated on for this for her entire life, is she aware of that?One LOLtwo, she shouldn't be hated on by anyone by this, other than maybe howard lederer. It's just a contract dispute, if they owe her money contractually, then they should pay it. I think this makes howard Et al look worse and sleazier for trying to not pay her, than it does for Clonie for trying to get her moneythree someone already said this, but it bears repeating. who gives a fck? Once she has her 1 percent , she can pretty much retire from public life if she wants to. Do you think the respect of forum boarding nerds is worth millions of dollars? Link to post Share on other sites
CrAcKeDaCeS 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 One LOLtwo, she shouldn't be hated on by anyone by this, other than maybe howard lederer. It's just a contract dispute, if they owe her money contractually, then they should pay it. I think this makes howard Et al look worse and sleazier for trying to not pay her, than it does for Clonie for trying to get her moneythree someone already said this, but it bears repeating. who gives a fck? Once she has her 1 percent , she can pretty much retire from public life if she wants to. Do you think the respect of forum boarding nerds is worth millions of dollars?Athough I agree with you 100% that if she wins her 1%, she's set for life, I think they were referring to the fact that she will be hated on by the poker community, who most likely will have Howard's and the other pro's back(s). But, $10-20 mill will sure ease that pain. Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 He also hosted the Celebrity Poker show which was on for a few seasons. That's how he is known to the general public moreso than his poker accomplishments.Sadly, that is what sucked me into this degen life Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Athough I agree with you 100% that if she wins her 1%, she's set for life, I think they were referring to the fact that she will be hated on by the poker community, who most likely will have Howard's and the other pro's back(s). But, $10-20 mill will sure ease that pain.Well, again, she may be hated by the online poker community, but they don't exactly love her to begin with anyway. And, I doubt she'll be hated by the non-tilt pros in the "superstar" community, because I mean, it's just a contract dispute, and what she's doing isn't something that any one of us didn't do. Again, if her allegations are true, they are basically trying to steal millions of dollars from her. That's not right. It doesn't matter how bad of a player she is or if she "deserves" the money or not. She deserves it because she's contractually guaranteed it. Link to post Share on other sites
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