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[simo_8ball]

******* Hand 1 ********Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.256 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $13.70UTG+1: $10.35Hero: $18.05Button: $50.65SB: $4.60BB: $20.60Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q K T 8 UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, Button raises to $1.6, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.Flop: Q J 3 ($5.4, 3 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets $2, UTG+1 raises to $4, Hero raises all-in $16.45, Button folds, UTG+1 calls all-in $4.75.Uncalled bets: $7.7 returned to Hero. Turn: 5 ($18.15, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $24.9)River: K ($18.15, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $24.9)Results:Final pot: $18.15UTG+1 showed Jc Jd 3h AdHero showed Qs Kh Th 8c******* Hand 2 ********Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.252 playersConverterStack sizes:Button: $50.65Hero: $4.6BB: $20.6UTG: $13.7Hero: $20.60BB: $30.80Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 7 3 6 8 Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls.Flop: 2 7 3 ($1.5, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $1.5, BB calls.Turn: 5 ($4.5, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $4.5, BB calls.River: T ($13.5, 2 players)BB bets $2.5, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: $18.5BB showed Ah 2h 4c 3cHero mucks 7d 3s 6h 8c******* Hand 3 ********Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $9CO: $24.45UTG: $13.7Button: $10.10Hero: $20.40BB: $23.95Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 8 7 7 T UTG calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB raises to $1.25, UTG calls, Button calls, Hero calls.Flop: 7 J T ($5, 5 players)Hero checks, BB bets $2.5, 2 folds, Hero calls.Turn: 4 ($10, 3 players)Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero calls.River: 8 ($20, 3 players)Hero checks, BB is all-in $15.2, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: $15.2 returned to BB.Results:Final pot: $35.2******* Hand 4 ********Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.254 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $10.40Button: $18.95CO: $24.45UTG: $13.7SB: $22.35Hero: $7.40Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 9 9 K A UTG calls, Button folds, SB raises to $1, Hero calls, UTG calls.Flop: 2 T J ($3, 3 players)SB bets $1.5, Hero raises all-in $6.4, UTG calls, SB raises to $12.8, UTG calls all-in $3.Uncalled bets: $3.4 returned to SB.Turn: 3 ($28.2, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $22.2, Sidepot 1: $6)River: 2 ($28.2, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $22.2, Sidepot 1: $6)Results:Final pot: $28.2SB showed Kh 8h Qc KcHero showed 9s 9d Ks AdUTG showed 3s Th 8d TsI want my Mobney. Want it now. Hurry up Neteller. I want to play $50PL and $100PL. Playing $25PL on a 2 buyin roll today. Not fun. Down to $11.30 now.

[simo_8ball]

I knew exactly what he had, and I knew exactly what the right play was. Obviously I just go psycho for no reason.I play so good.PokerStars Game #11362477183: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/08/07 - 16:26:05 (ET)Table 'Chantal II' 6-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: SoonerKDS ($46.60 in chips) Seat 2: eessccoo ($36.70 in chips) Seat 3: stoffer13 ($75.20 in chips) Seat 4: PeaceDeath ($127.95 in chips) Seat 5: simo_8ball ($72.55 in chips) eessccoo: posts small blind $0.25stoffer13: posts big blind $0.50JzKilLa: sits out *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to simo_8ball [Ad 9s 9h Th]SoonerKDS said, "wow"PeaceDeath: raises $1.25 to $1.75simo_8ball: calls $1.75SoonerKDS: folds eessccoo: folds stoffer13: calls $1.25*** FLOP *** [8d 9d Ah]stoffer13: checks PeaceDeath: bets $3simo_8ball: raises $11.25 to $14.25stoffer13: folds PeaceDeath: calls $11.25*** TURN *** [8d 9d Ah] [Ts]PeaceDeath: bets $32.35simo_8ball: calls $32.35*** RIVER *** [8d 9d Ah Ts] [4c]PeaceDeath: bets $30simo_8ball: calls $24.20 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***PeaceDeath: shows [Td Js Qh Ks] (a straight, Eight to Queen)simo_8ball: mucks hand PeaceDeath collected $145.10 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $147.10 | Rake $2 Board [8d 9d Ah Ts 4c]Seat 1: SoonerKDS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: eessccoo (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: stoffer13 (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 4: PeaceDeath showed [Td Js Qh Ks] and won ($145.10) with a straight, Eight to QueenSeat 5: simo_8ball mucked [Ad 9s 9h Th]

[simo_8ball]

PokerStars Game #11362915723: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/08/07 - 16:52:08 (ET)Table 'Alkimos' 6-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: robbuu ($74.75 in chips) Seat 3: simo_8ball ($59.10 in chips) Seat 5: tarikas ($89.80 in chips) Seat 6: wild_cardA10 ($11.90 in chips) Stewnod will be allowed to play after the buttontarikas: posts small blind $0.25wild_cardA10: posts big blind $0.50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to simo_8ball [Td 8d 9c Kh]billyem has returnedrobbuu: raises $1.25 to $1.75simo_8ball: calls $1.75tarikas: calls $1.50wild_cardA10: calls $1.25*** FLOP *** [Jd Qc 5c]tarikas: bets $6.65wild_cardA10: folds robbuu: calls $6.65simo_8ball: calls $6.65*** TURN *** [Jd Qc 5c] [8s]tarikas: bets $25.65robbuu: folds simo_8ball: raises $25.05 to $50.70 and is all-intarikas: calls $25.05*** RIVER *** [Jd Qc 5c 8s] [Jc]*** SHOW DOWN ***tarikas: shows [8h 8c 4c Ac] (a full house, Eights full of Jacks)simo_8ball: mucks hand tarikas collected $126.35 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $128.35 | Rake $2 Board [Jd Qc 5c 8s Jc]Seat 1: robbuu folded on the TurnSeat 3: simo_8ball (button) mucked [Td 8d 9c Kh]Seat 5: tarikas (small blind) showed [8h 8c 4c Ac] and won ($126.35) with a full house, Eights full of JacksSeat 6: wild_cardA10 (big blind) folded on the FlopYaaaaayyy.

[BudBundy]

so you busto now untill neteller money?

[BudBundy]

In this game, you gotta have the position first. Then when you have the position, you hit the flop.Then when you hit the flop, then you get the money. Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $205.25Hero: $105Button: $23.95SB: $164.60BB: $33.70Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with A 5 7 5 UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.5, Button folds, SB raises to $11.5, BB folds, Hero calls.Flop: 2 3 4 ($24, 2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.Turn: 6 ($24, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $36, Hero calls.River: 6 ($96, 2 players)SB bets $76, Hero calls all-in $57.5.Uncalled bets: $18.5 returned to SB.Results:Final pot: $211Hero showed As 5c 7c 5sSB showed Jh Tc 9d Ad

[simo_8ball]

I'm trying to work out what he had there. It looks like ace high, but that can't be right. Did the converter mess up or something?

[BudBundy]

He had a very beautiful ace high. Suited , connecting and everything.

[BudBundy]

I ****in hate these idiot retarded unbelievably lucky donks.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111there is no ****in way i am moving up like these it is unreal how bad they play and THEY ****IN HIT EVERY MNOTHER ****IN TIME!!!1I SHOULD BE UP 1K BY NOW BUT I CANT WIN A ****N 60*/40 TO SAVE MY GODDAMN LIFEFull Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $224.20UTG+1: $0CO: $87.60Button: $122.85SB: $87.60Hero: $121.20Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 2 K Q 6 UTG calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.Flop: Q Q 2 ($4, 5 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4, UTG folds, Button raises to $16, SB folds, Hero raises to $56, Button calls.Turn: T ($116, 3 players)Hero is all-in $68.2, Button calls.River: A ($252.4, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $252.4)Results:Final pot: $252.4Button showed 8s 8h Tc QhHero showed 2s Kh Qd 6d****in retards over and over and over how am i supposed to move up like thisd i am playing the best poekr of my life and i cant dodge 6 outs once in 2 ****in dayus

[simo_8ball]

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)CO ($75.10)Button ($75.60)Hero ($58.55)BB ($24.70)UTG ($41.50)MP ($45.80)Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 , A , 9 , J . UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Button raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.25, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1, CO calls $1.Flop: ($7.50) T , K , Q (5 players)Hero checks, BB bets $7.15, UTG folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero raises to $25, BB calls $16.05 (All-In).Turn: ($53.90) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)River: ($53.90) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $53.90Results:Hero has 8c As 9s Jc (straight, ace high). BB has Th Ac 6h Td (full house, tens full of queens). Outcome: BB wins $53.90. Hero wins $1.80.Just an example of how I'm running in my -$250 session so far. I may post more later.

[Merby]

*** WARNING: UNSOLICITED ADVICE ***(Just ignore this post if you didn't want any advice on the hands)Hand #1: I accidentally saw the results for this hand (all other hands, I gave advice before I read the results). Thus, my advice may be skewed a bit (although I don't think so...)I'm not a big fan of top pair+OESD on a 3-way flop.I take two approaches on this hand.1) Bet out and fold to any raise on the flop2) Check, and see action. -If the button checks, I plan to lead any safe turn cards or any of my gin cards.-If the button bets and UTG+1 folds, then 60 % of the time, I call and lead on *any* turn, and the other 40% of the time, I checkraise him.-If the button bets and UTG+1 calls, then I call and play straightforward on turn-If the button bets and UTG+1 raises, then I fold. Hand #2:Looks fine to the river. My river action is heavily dependent on the quality of player in the BB. My default here (without info) is to call such a smallish "value bet", but if I think the BB is a quality PLO player (or a tight nit), I don't mind folding here because the obvious draw connected on the turn (really, all you can beat is a bluff).Hand #3:I check that flop too. I hate bottom set OOP against 4 opponents on a coordinated board, so if there were any other callers or raisers, I'm folding on the flop to the BB bet. Depending on the type of player in the BB, I can either fold, call, or raise his bet once it's heads-up. My default is actually to fold or raise here.Hand #4:Looks fine.

[BudBundy]

It is ****in frustrating. They are supposed to hit less times than we hold up. Instead they hit over and over.How am i supposed to keep playing good when i put my money in as at least %60 fav all the time and lose EVERY MOTHER****IN EACH OF THEM?

[simo_8ball]

Merby, on Tuesday, August 7th, 2007, 11:41 PM, said:

*** WARNING: UNSOLICITED ADVICE ***(Just ignore this post if you didn't want any advice on the hands)Hand #1: I accidentally saw the results for this hand (all other hands, I gave advice before I read the results). Thus, my advice may be skewed a bit (although I don't think so...)I'm not a big fan of top pair+OESD on a 3-way flop.I take two approaches on this hand.1) Bet out and fold to any raise on the flop2) Check, and see action. -If the button checks, I plan to lead any safe turn cards or any of my gin cards.-If the button bets and UTG+1 folds, then 60 % of the time, I call and lead on *any* turn, and the other 40% of the time, I checkraise him.-If the button bets and UTG+1 calls, then I call and play straightforward on turn-If the button bets and UTG+1 raises, then I fold.

I was check/calling until I noticed how short button was. He only had about $9 left on the flop so I figured I'd raise to isolate. I was pretty certain he had a set, but I was getting good enough odds to put him allin.Against full stacks this is a pretty marginal spot.

[Merby]

simo_8ball, on Tuesday, August 7th, 2007, 3:36 PM, said:

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)CO ($75.10)Button ($75.60)Hero ($58.55)BB ($24.70)UTG ($41.50)MP ($45.80)Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 , A , 9 , J . UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Button raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.25, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1, CO calls $1.Flop: ($7.50) T , K , Q (5 players)Hero checks, BB bets $7.15, UTG folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero raises to $25, BB calls $16.05 (All-In).Turn: ($53.90) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)River: ($53.90) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $53.90Results:Hero has 8c As 9s Jc (straight, ace high). BB has Th Ac 6h Td (full house, tens full of queens). Outcome: BB wins $53.90. Hero wins $1.80.Just an example of how I'm running in my -$250 session so far. I may post more later.

Ouch! I have a hand just like that from a 2/4 table on Sunday. We were heads-up on the flop, and we ended up repotting each other back and forth until we were allin. He had middle set and filled up. I think it was for $1,000 or so... (I'm at work right now, so I don't have the HH in front of me). The good news is that it happened early during a session where I started off dropping 4.5 buyins, but eventually made it all back plus an extra $25 or so. I hope the same comeback is in your near future as well.

[Merby]

simo_8ball, on Tuesday, August 7th, 2007, 3:51 PM, said:

I was check/calling until I noticed how short button was. He only had about $9 left on the flop so I figured I'd raise to isolate. I was pretty certain he had a set, but I was getting good enough odds to put him allin.Against full stacks this is a pretty marginal spot.

Oops, I missed UTG+1 chip stack at that point. Yes, in that case, I may do the exact same thing --especially if I think the UTG+1 overvalues his hands post flop.

[simo_8ball]

Merby, on Tuesday, August 7th, 2007, 11:52 PM, said:

Ouch! I have a hand just like that from a 2/4 table on Sunday. We were heads-up on the flop, and we ended up repotting each other back and forth until we were allin. He had middle set and filled up. I think it was for $1,000 or so... (I'm at work right now, so I don't have the HH in front of me). The good news is that it happened early during a session where I started off dropping 4.5 buyins, but eventually made it all back plus an extra $25 or so. I hope the same comeback is in your near future as well.

It's funny - the actual cash doesn't bother me. It's the buyins. How many BB I lose. I can get annoyed over dropping two buyins at 2c/5c or at 10c/25c.Losing $50 at $10PLO would be more annoying than losing $300 at $100PLO.

[BudBundy]

simo_8ball, on Wednesday, August 8th, 2007, 2:06 AM, said:

Losing $50 at $10PLO would be more annoying than losing $300 at $100PLO.

I am not that sure about this.

[Merby]

simo_8ball, on Tuesday, August 7th, 2007, 4:06 PM, said:

It's funny - the actual cash doesn't bother me. It's the buyins. How many BB I lose. I can get annoyed over dropping two buyins at 2c/5c or at 10c/25c.Losing $50 at $10PLO would be more annoying than losing $300 at $100PLO.

I agree completely. The pot I tangled in probably totaled 2 buy-ins --one of which was from me .It was a very swingy day, because that is the first time I ever put 4.5 buy-ins into one table (online) without a break. The play was just so atrocious, that I figured --if I kept a level head-- it would all come back to me. It was, however, high stress to know I was risking so many buyins to do this. If it weren't for the fact that it was 6:30 am, and I was dog tired (and had to "get up" in 4 hours), I would have happily stayed, because even when I left, there were two *HUGE* PLO fish sitting with double buy-in stacks. I only dream of running across a table like that again soon.

[Merby]

BudBundy, on Tuesday, August 7th, 2007, 4:17 PM, said:

I am not that sure about this.

It's all about how long it *should* take you to win that back by sticking to the same level and eking out your BB/100 winrate. In that case, it's really the number of buyins won or lost at a given level, rather than amount of money won or lost that is the determining factor as to how long it will take (on average) to make that money back.

[simo_8ball]

BudBundy, on Wednesday, August 8th, 2007, 12:17 AM, said:

I am not that sure about this.

A while ago I played some $1 heads up games on Pacific for a laugh. I lost 7 or 8 by randomly shoving blind every hand, but I kept losing 50 50s and 60/40s. I also lost a 75/25. I started to tilt. And I mean proper, full on tilt. I was joining them and trying to play seriously, but I would do things like check shove bottom pair in the 3rd hand because I was so damn annoyed at losing every time. I ended up losing about $20 playing those, and I was amazed that I could seriously tilt playing such tiny stakes.

[BudBundy]

Merby, on Wednesday, August 8th, 2007, 2:21 AM, said:

It's all about how long it *should* take you to win that back by sticking to the same level and eking out your BB/100 winrate. In that case, it's really the number of buyins won or lost at a given level, rather than amount of money won or lost that is the determining factor as to how long it will take (on average) to make that money back.

That's right. I am just mad that i lost 2 buyins on that level