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#3181 MapleLeafpoker

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Posted Yesterday, 08:45 AM

View Postdigitalmonkey, on 20 August 2017 - 06:43 PM, said:

Actually, looking at that picture above again I see one person protesting peacefully and another person invading someone's personal space while gesturing aggressively.

How do you know he's protesting anything?
Maybe he was just a guy acting out a civil war scene at a theatre?
Maybe he just likes wearing those clothes and walking around with a flag?

How do we know he's in public?
Maybe he's on her lawn, or in her childs schoolyard?

Lots of assumptions, and lots of personal perceptions. Personally, I find it as just as bad invading my personal space when someone shouts derogatory shit in public. Hell, I find it invading my personal space when people shout out at all, but Im old and tired of people. :)

add: I'm especially tired of all this American shit. Figure it out America, you couldn't be more f'in dysfunctional right now if you tried.

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Posted Yesterday, 08:53 AM

 MapleLeafpoker, on 21 August 2017 - 08:45 AM, said:



How do you know he's protesting anything?
Maybe he was just a guy acting out a civil war scene at a theatre?
Maybe he just likes wearing those clothes and walking around with a flag?

How do we know he's in public?
Maybe he's on her lawn, or in her childs schoolyard?

Lots of assumptions, and lots of personal perceptions. Personally, I find it as just as bad invading my personal space when someone shouts derogatory shit in public. Hell, I find it invading my personal space when people shout out at all, but Im old and tired of people. :)

add: I'm especially tired of all this American shit. Figure it out America, you couldn't be more f'in dysfunctional right now if you tried.

What exactly should I do to fix this?

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Posted Yesterday, 01:15 PM

 iBeaver, on 21 August 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:



What exactly should I do to fix this?

Prayers obv
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Posted Yesterday, 02:15 PM

View PostiBeaver, on 21 August 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

What exactly should I do to fix this?

hide your racist Uncle's car keys on election day
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Posted Yesterday, 06:00 PM

View PostiBeaver, on 21 August 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

What exactly should I do to fix this?

I got nothing

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Posted Yesterday, 06:49 PM

 MapleLeafpoker, on 21 August 2017 - 06:00 PM, said:



I got nothing
Now you know how the majority of the country feels. There's not much anyone in America can do. The majority of us voted for someone else but well, that's not important. It's all about poedunk rural America with the education of 6th graders that gets to decide the President. We're just along for the long shitty ride. The only redeeming thing is that he's screwing them all over just as much as he's screwing everyone else.

I'm angry and exhausted.

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Posted Yesterday, 07:28 PM

View PostiBeaver, on 21 August 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

Now you know how the majority of the country feels. There's not much anyone in America can do. The majority of us voted for someone else but well, that's not important. It's all about poedunk rural America with the education of 6th graders that gets to decide the President. We're just along for the long shitty ride. The only redeeming thing is that he's screwing them all over just as much as he's screwing everyone else.

I'm angry and exhausted.

sadly, I think the President is not the true problem, merely the one that gets all the attention these days. I apologize if this upsets you guys, but I think your nation had huge issues long before Trump started his campaign and all this is doing is bringing some of it to the forefront, for example in this case, racism+bigotry. You could get rid of Trump tomorrow, replace him with the ghost of Martin Luther King, and it feels like not much would change. There is a deep rooted problem with the psyche of much of the country that i just don't understand, and most of it revolves around hate. Its in between races, between red/blue states, between political ideologies and between just about every other topic that has 2 sides. And in the word of your president, its on all sides. Every issue comes with such vitriol, its a wonder anything ever gets done.
That said, NYSE all time high, unemployment is down, and Apple stock looks like a no brainer. Alls good!

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Posted Yesterday, 07:31 PM

And you know what scares me the most? That sometime in my lifetime, late in my lifetime but during the middle of my sons, this country will be more and more like that, full of anger, hate and delusion. Hope Im wrong, about the US now and about Canada then.

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Posted Yesterday, 07:58 PM

View PostMapleLeafpoker, on 21 August 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

And you know what scares me the most? That sometime in my lifetime, late in my lifetime but during the middle of my sons, this country will be more and more like that, full of anger, hate and delusion. Hope Im wrong, about the US now and about Canada then.

We need to organize and shut that shit down right the **** now.

Build a society for all, keep the middle class a thing, embrace our multiculturalism, celebrate it.

Will that work, I don't know, but I sure hope so.

I love that we're there holding protests right along with the States even though it's not *quite* happening here.

The CPC leader denounced The Rebel and it basically fell apart. It will probably come back more radicalized than ever, but hopefully we can just crush it again. (Though some would argue what's his face probably agrees with the Rebel more than you'd like)

We need to get ahead of it, anyways.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:00 PM

If we continue down the path of everyone wanting to live private lives - gated communities, fenced backyards, private cars, etc, well, that tends to breed ... hate is a strong word, but unfamiliarity with the rest of the populace. [edit - I worded this poorly - the point I'm trying to make is segregation of class, of race, etc, which happens a lot more within a privatized society (I don't know the real term for this?), of which the US is the leader... I don't know.]

I don't know enough to really talk about this confidently, so I'll just leave it there and let other people jump in. I'm mostly just saying we need to be more public (socialist?), and less private, and not be afraid of each other.

My biggest point is we need to stop this shit right now, not when it boils into what the US is seeing.
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Posted Today, 01:16 AM

View PostZach6668, on 21 August 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

If we continue down the path of everyone wanting to live private lives - gated communities, fenced backyards, private cars, etc, well, that tends to breed ... hate is a strong word, but unfamiliarity with the rest of the populace. [edit - I worded this poorly - the point I'm trying to make is segregation of class, of race, etc, which happens a lot more within a privatized society (I don't know the real term for this?), of which the US is the leader... I don't know.]

I don't know enough to really talk about this confidently, so I'll just leave it there and let other people jump in. I'm mostly just saying we need to be more public (socialist?), and less private, and not be afraid of each other.

My biggest point is we need to stop this shit right now, not when it boils into what the US is seeing.

One major problem is that people live in their own bubbles including people who eat only tofu and bike.

The internet and social media have proven to be a massive force for division since it means we have less and less of a shared experience. We get the news that reinforces our prior beliefs, we congregate in online communities that often act as circle jerks that only reinforce those beliefs and biases.

I'm old and I remember when Americans got their news from Walter Cronkite and Canadians from Knowlton Nash and Lloyd Robertson. Fringe thoughts and feelings didn't have a way to get out there to a wide audience and the majority of the populace had a base of shared experiences.

Zach is showing his own bubble's biases in his statement and I get exposed to a lot of his bubble through him on twitter from things he shares and likes (thanks twitter for showing what people I follow like in my timeline). I often learn something from that exposure and at times I shake my head at the illogic.

People have always been mad as Hell about things but now it's very easy to find a home where you can find other people who also hate big business or unions or immigrants or people who drive Hummers. ( In truth we all laugh at people who drive Hummers don't we. )
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Posted Today, 02:23 AM

If you feel too down about things remember that this is the best time in the history of the planet for the majority of people on it. Here's one example.

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Posted Today, 04:26 AM

 MapleLeafpoker, on 21 August 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:



sadly, I think the President is not the true problem, merely the one that gets all the attention these days. I apologize if this upsets you guys, but I think your nation had huge issues long before Trump started his campaign and all this is doing is bringing some of it to the forefront, for example in this case, racism+bigotry. You could get rid of Trump tomorrow, replace him with the ghost of Martin Luther King, and it feels like not much would change. There is a deep rooted problem with the psyche of much of the country that i just don't understand, and most of it revolves around hate. Its in between races, between red/blue states, between political ideologies and between just about every other topic that has 2 sides. And in the word of your president, its on all sides. Every issue comes with such vitriol, its a wonder anything ever gets done.
That said, NYSE all time high, unemployment is down, and Apple stock looks like a no brainer. Alls good!

I only disagree with a few small things.

I totally agree that this was there before. I disagree that Trump isn't part of the problem. He gave them all the go ahead to now think it's fine for them to come out of hiding. If he was defeated early I believe they all would have continued to hide in their racist closets as they were already doing. He gave them the voice they longed for. They still only represent less than 17% of the population but now that one of them is the leader they have the power. Obv he's not the be all end all of the issue but he was the match. Putting out the match might help push everyone back in their closets. Or riots galore.

Job growth is actually at a 5 yr low and continuing to decline.

i just get annoyed when people not from the US tell us to do something about it. I would love to but I don't know what to do and like you said and many before you said, you have no clue what to do either,so stop pointing out the obvious :) Don't kick us while we are already down.

People are doing the best they can. The health care issue was a big win. I didn't do anything during that because my representative was a no vote from day one. But if you step back and realize that the GOP has control of all three levels (prez, senate, and house) and can't get shit done, you can see we are making a difference. I remember during Bush years we all complained but nobody did anything. So nothing changed. He did what he wanted. There is a clear difference so maybe just maybe we can bring some normalcy back at some point in the future.




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