hblask, on Sunday, May 7th, 2006, 8:49 PM, said:
This is not a bad beat post. This is a stupid player (me) post, with a serious question at the end. In the last week, I've played these four hands in 0.50 NL:Dealt QQ, raise to 4X, solid conservative player that I've played many times reraises, I call. Flop comes with all junk, he raises again, I call. More junk, he goes all in. I've seen this guy, it only means AA. I call. -$48Dealt AQ offsuit. Flop comes Qxx, I bet, am raised a lot (7 or 8 dollars). More junk, raises another 10, I decide he's bluffing or has QJ or something. Why? No idea, no read, just some thought that crossed my head that I can't let go of. He goes all in on river, I call, he turns over AA. -$50This one basically happened twice, with only slight variation in the cards. I limp in with some weak hand like KJo from a middle position. Everyone before and after me folds to the blinds. One of the blinds raises to something like 6BB. I decide its a blatant steal and they have rag-rag. Why? Both times I'd been in the room less than 10 hands. No read at all. No obvious insane betting. Anyway, flop comes with an Ace both times, I hit lower pair. Opponent bets, I'm still convinced it's a steal, and raise, eventually end up all-in. Each time, -$50.So, after one week, I'm down 180. Without these four hands, I'm marginally positive in a week where the cards have not been kind otherwise, either. With the bad beats and general lack of cards, a net positive would've been a big accomplishment.And so you won't think this is just a whining post, here are my questions:How do I stop doing that? Do I just have to go totally broke first? It feels like I know it's wrong as I'm clicking it, but some lower part of my brain takes over and overrides the intelligent part. Has anyone else experienced this? What do you do about it? After the first "steal" attempt, I said I was going to tape to a note to my screen that said "It's not a blind steal", but I figured the lost money would be reminder enough. Less than 24 hours later some dark part of my brain reared up and told me to not let them get away with it. WF? I can't be the only one whose brain occasionally abandons reason...Ideas?
I have some suggestions because this exact thing plagued me just about 6 months ago. I was just slightly losing at that time, today I am only slightly winning, but my game is growing immensely.First things first, in no limit ring games you can still be a winning player by not making calls in which you think you have a small edge,(for instance when a BB is raising and you think it is a steal), Therefore, what I am suggesting, is any time you get yourself into this conflict, just go ahead and fold, honestly when your head is telling you its no good but your compulsions make you call, all it takes is actually folding one or two times until it becomes easier. There is a very interesting article i believe on cardplayer i guess called folding aces, basically someone just folded them preflop before just to make it easier to fold them later in his career after the flop in unlucky situations.If you first start making these folds a lot, you can still maximize your other hands and possibly still make a profit, what I am trying to say is, once you start folding these marginal situations a lot, THEN you can begin to focus on which times in these marginal situations you actually should be pushing/playing and not just passively folding.In conclusion, if you fold more often than you should in these situations and then focus on when to make the calls a few months after, you can stay a break even maybe profit or slight loser whereas if you don't first get used to making the laydowns and you first start trying to figure out when and when not to play back (like the BB situation you discussed) you will most likely be a losing player without a chance of even being break even.I know this is very confusing but it honestly helped me immensely bc like i said just 6 months ago i was making the plays you described very often, and honestly it helps to just fold more often than needed just to get used to it. It gets to the point where making laydowns is so not emotional anymore, regardless of if you flop a straight or trips and just have to laydown to chitty boards. Good luck, let me know if you understand what I am trying to say..