Nit Makes A Wonky 4bet

[Ninja Ace 1]

Then checks the flop...I hate these wonky min 4bets especially when I'm 3bet stealing...then we flop this crap value line? pot control line? I is confuzzledonce a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersHJ: $15.30 CO: $44.41 Button: $32.92 (Hero)SB: $25.00 BB: $14.48 UTG: $28.00 UTG+1: $72.00 MP: $7.72 MP2: $37.24 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (9 players)2 folds, 3 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, CO raises to $5.75, Hero calls $2.75Flop: ($11.85) (2 players)CO checks, Hero?

[KingJames 11]

I don't 3b light a lot vs 4x opens bc I am a nitIf I do i make it $2.50 or $2.75As played, bet $4.50 and go from there

[Ninja Ace 1]

I don't 3b light a lot vs 4x opens bc I am a nit

If someone has a fold to % that makes it correct why would the size of their standard open (aside from standard open shoving and other such nonsense) affect your decision?

[mtdesmoines 3]

Then checks the flop...I hate these wonky min 4bets especially when I'm 3bet stealing...then we flop this crap value line? pot control line? I is confuzzledonce a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersHJ: $15.30 CO: $44.41 Button: $32.92 (Hero)SB: $25.00 BB: $14.48 UTG: $28.00 UTG+1: $72.00 MP: $7.72 MP2: $37.24 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (9 players)2 folds, 3 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, CO raises to $5.75, Hero calls $2.75Flop: ($11.85) (2 players)CO checks, Hero?

I think a nice little $8 bet makes a turn shove automatic, which is what we're setting up.Oh, and I hate your PF play FWIW

[KingJames 11]

If someone has a fold to % that makes it correct why would the size of their standard open (aside from standard open shoving and other such nonsense) affect your decision?

well with a read it's fine...If they fold to more than like 72% it's profitable to 3b any two, right... so go nutsJust saying I'd 3b smaller to give myself a better priceAnd i'd fold to the 4b regardless of sizing

[Ninja Ace 1]

If they fold to more than like 72% it's profitable to 3b any two, right... so go nutsJust saying I'd 3b smaller to give myself a better price

Not nuts but I think hands with blockers or that play well against flatted 3bets are automagic. You might be onto something about me not mashing the pot button though.

And i'd fold to the 4b regardless of sizing

so i can't go "i has a ace in positionz and i is 30/70 against everythin but aces and no wayz da case ace will cum if u has eeet"?Serious question. Even a smallish 7 or 8 or me being OOP and I autofold.

[CobaltBlue 662]

I probably fold the first or second time.Like KJ said, I don't like going over the top of 4x opens as much. My feeling is that they're typically a little more heavily weighted towards value than 3.5x or less. That said, I like the 3-bet sizing pre if we're going that route. When he 4-bets, I just don't think we're really deep enough to call. If he'd min-re-raised, I could see the flat. I realize that it's quite small, but I think it's still a bit too much of our stack. I dislike it, but I guess I don't hate it. Flop comes...he says he has KK...maybe AK...or is getting tricky with AA/QQ/AQ. I can get behind checking back or betting.

[rrumsey 0]

i dont think i call the 4 bet you flopped gold. hope he has AK, bet big and snap off a shove imo