fighter 4 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Notice stack size, bet size and pot size throughout hand. Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG: $4.00 UTG+1: $22.48 CO: $10.54 Button: $16.64 (Hero)SB: $8.00 BB: $11.12 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is Button with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.80, CO folds, Hero ??Would you interpret this bet size as strength or weakness?What hands you calling with here ? What hands are you 3 betting with if any ? Hero calls $0.80, SB calls $0.75, BB foldsFlop: ($2.50) (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 bets $3.50, Hero ??What is your action?Would you change it if the 9 was Q ?If the flop bet size was 3/4 pot or pot would how would you react? Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Based on my assumptions of how nitty 10nl rush is I am calling preflop strictly to set mine. I doubt he takes this line with AK and I believe he has AA or KK here a vast majority of the time.I am folding the flop and feeling okay about it.Change the 9 to a Q and it's an easier fold (bc if he is wider than I imagine, than he has some top pair hands which we lose to)If the flop was was 3/4 I'm peeling the flop and eval the turn. I would still likely give up on "blank turns" bc I think the huge raise pre and firing two big barrels multiway is going to be an overpair (not TT) here a lot Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 James wins. I was going to post most of what he said. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 calling preflop is fine but what are you hoping for if we call? beyond a set. just fold the flop and move on. donk won the min from you Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 If someone consistently opens to a ridiculous big blind amount, say even six BB's, are we still reacting the same way? Link to post Share on other sites
Jack4814 0 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Wanted to post a similar hand. 1/2 NL liveHero: ~$170 dealt JJVillian: ~$85I raise to 8 in early position. Get 1 caller and the villian raises to $35 in late position, Hero?? Probably the most active raiser on the table but was a standard average player, saw him make 1 play that was very donkish. This was the first time he had re-raised but had probably only been playing for half an hour. Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted September 6, 2010 Author Share Posted September 6, 2010 Wanted to post a similar hand. 1/2 NL liveHero: ~$170 dealt JJVillian: ~$85I raise to 8 in early position. Get 1 caller and the villian raises to $35 in late position, Hero?? Probably the most active raiser on the table but was a standard average player, saw him make 1 play that was very donkish. This was the first time he had re-raised but had probably only been playing for half an hour.I would shove. You are ahead of Villains range, it is for 42bb's and the person in the middle will very rarely if ever have a better hand. Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Assuming the heroes play in this manner (which may be right to exploit the nits), it looks like raising a c-betting to these amounts with ATC would show a profit. Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Wanted to post a similar hand. 1/2 NL liveHero: ~$170 dealt JJVillian: ~$85I raise to 8 in early position. Get 1 caller and the villian raises to $35 in late position, Hero?? Probably the most active raiser on the table but was a standard average player, saw him make 1 play that was very donkish. This was the first time he had re-raised but had probably only been playing for half an hour.This is a much different situation due to the stack sizes and reads. Go ahead and get it in here. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 This is a much different situation due to the stack sizes and reads. Go ahead and get it in here. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Assuming the heroes play in this manner (which may be right to exploit the nits), it looks like raising a c-betting to these amounts with ATC would show a profit.I would think that most players wouldn't fold JJ here tbh so I doubt that overbetting with the intention of making them fold that hand is too good.Also, if large PFRs and flop overbets become your standard, people will pick up on that as well and never fold JJ here. Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I would think that most players wouldn't fold JJ here tbh so I doubt that overbetting with the intention of making them fold that hand is too good.Also, if large PFRs and flop overbets become your standard, people will pick up on that as well and never fold JJ here.That could take a long time in rush. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 That could take a long time in rush.Yeah, I kind of forgot it was rush. Regardless, I still think most people aren't willing to fold JJ on a 9 high flop so overbetting there thinking they'll fold it would be unwise. Link to post Share on other sites
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