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#1301 SwolyswoND

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:03 PM

View PostNashtak, on Friday, March 12th, 2010, 5:49 PM, said:

Posted ImageA pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 5 playersSB: $4.26 BB: $2.15 UTG: $2.00 (Hero)CO: $2.82 Button: $2.69 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with :3h :5c (5 players)Hero raises to $0.08, CO folds, Button calls $0.08, 2 foldsFlop: ($0.19) :4h :ts :club: (2 players)Hero bets $0.13, Button calls $0.13Turn: ($0.45) :qh (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $0.45, Hero foldsButton won $0.42(Rake: $0.03)This fold left a bad taste in my mouth. I didn't check the turn with the intention of folding but the pot-sized bet is sooo ugly.
Why is the PSB ugly? This is what fishes LOVE to do with air when they sense weakness. If he had Kx, he would've bet smaller to keep you in.I'm 99% sure you folded the best hand here.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:03 PM

View Postbabylondonks, on Friday, March 12th, 2010, 6:51 PM, said:

oh no, a guy shoved in 80bb and we have AK. The only question here is if we snap call or super snap call.
That spot is nowhere near as automatic as you make it out to be. I think I call too, but it's not remotely close to a snap.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:03 PM

View Postbabylondonks, on Saturday, March 13th, 2010, 9:51 AM, said:

oh no, a guy shoved in 80bb and we have AK. The only question here is if we snap call or super snap call.
I can see this being a fold. It would be a "we are so excited that we run down the street trying to high five neighbors but forget to hit time bank and come back to our hand being mucked, fold" but fold none the less.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:05 PM

View PostSwolyswoND, on Friday, March 12th, 2010, 7:03 PM, said:

That spot is nowhere near as automatic as you make it out to be. I think I call too, but it's not remotely close to a snap.
AK is he nuts at 6max imo.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:16 PM

View Postfighter, on Saturday, March 13th, 2010, 12:03 PM, said:

I can see this being a fold. It would be a "we are so excited that we run down the street trying to high five neighbors but forget to hit time bank and come back to our hand being mucked, fold" but fold none the less.
If you are folding here it is much better not to 3bet. I mean I hate money as much as the next man but 3b/folding AK for 80bb at 6m is just suicide. Particularly at 2nl.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 09:44 PM

View PostSwolyswoND, on Friday, March 12th, 2010, 8:03 PM, said:

Why is the PSB ugly? This is what fishes LOVE to do with air when they sense weakness. If he had Kx, he would've bet smaller to keep you in.I'm 99% sure you folded the best hand here.
I don't think we play the same 2nl. I don't even think you ever play 2nl.
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If I had a nickel for every time I've had this exact same problem I would have zero nickels because I'm not a faggot.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 11:06 PM

I did a search, but how do I use the hand converter?

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 11:14 PM

View PostManign, on Saturday, March 13th, 2010, 2:06 AM, said:

I did a search, but how do I use the hand converter?
http://www.feralcowp...hp?version=1.11Copy the hand from your hand historyPaste it in the first squareConvertCopy everything from the 2nd squarePaste in here.
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If I had a nickel for every time I've had this exact same problem I would have zero nickels because I'm not a faggot.

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 11:19 PM

Lol nvm

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 10:57 AM

full tilt punishing the 3bet call w/the 34oprobably should just shove flop but meh, wanted some spazz equityFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG ($11.97)MP ($9.60)Button ($10.52)Hero (SB) ($10.16)BB ($14.74)Preflop: Hero is SB with K :D, K :5cUTG bets $0.35, 1 fold, Button calls $0.35, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1.40, UTG calls $1.15, Button calls $1.15Flop: ($6) 3 :3h, 5 :club:, 2 :ts (4 players)Hero bets $3.20, BB raises to $13.24 (All-In), UTG calls $10.47 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $5.46 (All-In)Turn: ($35.60) 8 :qh (3 players, 3 all-in)River: ($35.60) 8 :club: (3 players, 3 all-in)Total pot: $35.60 | Rake: $2Results:Hero had K :D, K :jh (two pair, Kings and eights).BB had 3 :ts, 4 :D (two pair, eights and threes).UTG had Q :4h, Q :D (two pair, Queens and eights).Outcome: Hero won $29.98, UTG won $3.62

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 11:15 AM

View PostNashtak, on Saturday, March 13th, 2010, 12:44 AM, said:

I don't think we play the same 2nl. I don't even think you ever play 2nl.
The stakes don't matter in this context. You folded the best hand. And no, I don't play 2NL. Never have never will.
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Flops are kind of like vagina's. The wetter they are, the harder you hit them.

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 11:19 AM

First hand of the day, too. I'm still a newbie at this. Posted ImageFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersUTG: $1.12 UTG+1: $2.71 CO: $1.21 Button: $5.22 SB: $2.96 BB: $0.99 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Posted Image Posted Image (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.02, CO folds, Button raises to $0.08, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG+1 folds, Button calls $0.12Flop: ($0.43) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image (2 players)Hero checks, Button checksTurn: ($0.43) Posted Image (2 players)Hero bets $0.16, Button calls $0.16River: ($0.75) Posted Image (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20Button showed Posted Image Posted Image, and won ($1.10) with two pair, Aces and SixesHero mucked Posted Image Posted ImageButton won $1.10(Rake: $0.05)

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 11:32 AM

You were right to check the flop. But you have to follow that up and c/c the turn, even though I know it sucks when you hold KK. There's just not much you get value from. As played c/c the river is fine only because he bet so small. If it's close to pot I think I fold because there are literally zero draws that missed.
QUOTE (Ninja Ace @ Wednesday, March 24th, 2010, 2:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Flops are kind of like vagina's. The wetter they are, the harder you hit them.

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 01:44 PM

So I'm so frustrated with how I'm running (and tilting) on FT that I moved to Stars. Are I a fish?
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Just got slow rolled by some random with aces, time to take an automatic weapon to the nearest crowded public space.


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Posted 13 March 2010 - 01:59 PM

No one believes in the FTP Riggedness more than I do but...I wouldn't actually change sites. At our limits there's no reason to do so. Still, you're a massive multitabler, so you should be able to get enough value from PStar's VIP program to compensate for the loss of RB.

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 02:29 PM

View PostSwolyswoND, on Saturday, March 13th, 2010, 11:32 AM, said:

You were right to check the flop. But you have to follow that up and c/c the turn, even though I know it sucks when you hold KK. There's just not much you get value from. As played c/c the river is fine only because he bet so small. If it's close to pot I think I fold because there are literally zero draws that missed.
Checking flop is good, but I don't agree that there isn't value here. QQ/99 is going to have a hard time folding after we checked the flop. Betting half pot on the turn and one third to half pot on the river should get some crying calls from those hands.

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 03:32 PM

View PostManign, on Saturday, March 13th, 2010, 12:19 PM, said:

First hand of the day, too. I'm still a newbie at this. Posted ImageFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersUTG: $1.12 UTG+1: $2.71 CO: $1.21 Button: $5.22 SB: $2.96 BB: $0.99 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Posted Image Posted Image (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.02, CO folds, Button raises to $0.08, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG+1 folds, Button calls $0.12Flop: ($0.43) Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image (2 players)Hero checks, Button checksTurn: ($0.43) Posted Image (2 players)Hero bets $0.16, Button calls $0.16River: ($0.75) Posted Image (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20Button showed Posted Image Posted Image, and won ($1.10) with two pair, Aces and SixesHero mucked Posted Image Posted ImageButton won $1.10(Rake: $0.05)
3-bet a little bigger imo, then what SH said
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 03:48 PM

What about this 3bet? Certainly made him fold, but did I get good value?Posted Imagebeware the feral cow packs. they hunger.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersSB: $3.74 BB: $2.39 UTG: $2.80 UTG+1: $0.98 (Hero)CO: $2.00 Button: $1.69 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG+1 with Posted Image Posted Image (6 players)UTG raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.30, 5 foldsHero collected $0.15(Rake: $0)

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 03:55 PM

Too big... .22 imo
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 03:58 PM

Also, don't post results if you have a serious questionIf it's a BBV post, results are fine, but they bias people in strat discussion, yo
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