trystero 0 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 ...drawing dead the whole way (ok that's obviously for dramatic effect because I did have a gutter)?Do we raise this river or are we cool w/this flat? fold turn ?no reads, literally first handFull Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG ($5)MP ($3.22)CO ($2)Button ($1.19)SB ($2.73)Hero (BB) ($2)Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 , J , K , K :spade:UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO bets $0.09, 1 fold, SB calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.07, UTG calls $0.07Flop: ($0.36) 6 , A , Q (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checksTurn: ($0.36) K (4 players)SB bets $0.18, Hero calls $0.18, 2 foldsRiver: ($0.72) 6 (2 players)SB bets $0.72, Hero calls $0.72Total pot: $2.16 | Rake: $0.14 Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Do we raise this river or are we cool w/this flat?- im kind of ok with the flat depending on villain but a raise is defendable at the very least fold turn ?- Never, when we hit a big set we call that turn all day after that flop gets checked around, villain may have 2 pair or a set of queens, maybe 6's but i highly doubt itIt was a 1/2 pot bet we take the oddson blank i call a 1/2 pot all day,.. on a full pot we crap, i tank call but a fold may be more correct to be honest but i still don't see myself do thatIm still shaky on a raise river or just flat. I think it is a raise in theory, we run into better boat or sometimes quads about the same amount of time we see worst boats so it just depends on if we think villain call with a st8. it is 2PLO, i assume villain calls a raise on river some of the time with a st8, but it is kind of thin, wouldn't blame you for keeping in small on your first hand, I hate getting stack extremely early in sessions so that is my kind of flip flop feeling,... very thin vbet river Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I think the river is an easy raise. There is no reason to assume he has you beat and your hand doesn't look like a full-house, so I think you get called light here. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 this is A6xx, QQxx, JTxx way more than AAxxi'd raise the river Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 I don't know what monkees ya'll play with. I'm playing with the lowest of the low and even these guys don't overplay JT here. certainly they're not betting A6 on this turn. No random dude really is going to 1/2 pot w/the nuts and then pot it when the board pairs...now at higher limits I suspect you can start to take AA out of the equation because that typically gets 3-bet pf. but not here. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I don't know what monkees ya'll play with. I'm playing with the lowest of the low and even these guys don't overplay JT here. certainly they're not betting A6 on this turn. No random dude really is going to 1/2 pot w/the nuts and then pot it when the board pairs...now at higher limits I suspect you can start to take AA out of the equation because that typically gets 3-bet pf. but not here.i just added JTxx because it is a possibility. if youre that sure its AAxx then why even post the hand? Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 1) it was what I felt to be an interesting spot where raising seemed best, which I don't really agree with2) to generate some activity on the forum (clearly failing here) Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I don't know what monkees ya'll play with. I'm playing with the lowest of the low and even these guys don't overplay JT here. certainly they're not betting A6 on this turn. No random dude really is going to 1/2 pot w/the nuts and then pot it when the board pairs...now at higher limits I suspect you can start to take AA out of the equation because that typically gets 3-bet pf. but not here.Your point about bet sizing is quite true, and maybe this does weight it more towards a call on the river. Still, I don't particularly see why villain can't have A6 or Q6 here.. But yeah, his bet sizing is consistent with AA so I guess calling is ok. Link to post Share on other sites
Adam_g 0 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 At those limits - are these guys slow playing top set on the flop? I'm thinking 1/2 poting at least, with two others in? helps take away AA - and makes me want to shove the river to find out, lol. I dont see how you can rule out j10 here either Link to post Share on other sites
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