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[Theraflu]

Well in that case...I can't argue against you or ease your fears in any way. I really loved all four books the first time through, and didn't realize how much was missing from Crows until it ended. I'm rereading the series now, and absolutely love books 2 and 3, but I don't think I will be very enamored with Crows, for most of the reasons you mentioned. I don't think he'll ever finish the series, and the only reason book 5 might come out is so that they can do a 4th season of the TV show. He's said on his blog he's kind of stuck with where Daeny is, and how he's going to get her to where she needs to be in time, and he's only created more problems and unnecessary characters, as you described, so I'm doubtful anything will come out past Dragons. Also, he's a fat miserly fuck that will die of an obesity-related heart problem in <5 years.

[BigDMcGee]

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I haven't read any of the Wheel of Time books

Don't.

[BigDMcGee]

Theraflu, on Wednesday, December 8th, 2010, 5:53 PM, said:

Well in that case...I can't argue against you or ease your fears in any way. I really loved all four books the first time through, and didn't realize how much was missing from Crows until it ended. I'm rereading the series now, and absolutely love books 2 and 3, but I don't think I will be very enamored with Crows, for most of the reasons you mentioned. I don't think he'll ever finish the series, and the only reason book 5 might come out is so that they can do a 4th season of the TV show. He's said on his blog he's kind of stuck with where Daeny is, and how he's going to get her to where she needs to be in time, and he's only created more problems and unnecessary characters, as you described, so I'm doubtful anything will come out past Dragons. Also, he's a fat miserly fuck that will die of an obesity-related heart problem in <5 years.

These are exactly my concerns. Everything, including his fat fuckness is pointing to Wheel of Time 2.0, and because the book series will presumably become gigantic with the exposure on HBO, I am sure his estate will hire some hack ghost writer to finish the series.... or write it in perpetuity as I assume WoT is going to be writen, since they have no incentive to ever end it.

[BigDMcGee]

I really hate the wheel of time, if you haven't guessed. Dan brown is terrible and it tilts me that the DiVinci code is so popular, The left behind books are laughably poorly written, but neither of those books make me angry. WoT does, because I wasted so much ****ing time on that series, and it just got worse and worse and worse and more unreadable, but I am philosophically (or was a the time, at least) inclined to finish a book or series once I started it, and kept chasing good time after bad hoping the series would improve, or at least end, but it just got more and more needlessly complex and indulgent. I hate that fat fuck for waisting so much of my life, and torturing me with his wooden prose and wretched dialog. I hope there's a hell just so he can get sodomized by a pit fiend. It boggles my mind that wheel of time is so popular. I guess fantasy nerds, while smart, have low literary expectations.

[Jadaki]

BigDMcGee, on Wednesday, December 8th, 2010, 8:19 AM, said:

I wish jadaki still posted here, I have a bone to pick with him about this series of books.

Some Harry Potter pervert mentioned I should stop by here...Guess I'll spoiler this to not ruin anything for anyone who hasn't read the books or is waiting on the show.In regard to the end of Storm of Swords,

Spoiler

I just don't have the problem with it you do. You have to know based on the first book that Martin has no problem offing main characters. I'm not sure why you think that will drag out the series. There are a few things that play into why books 4 & 5 have taken so long (based off his blog and reports I've read from his appearances). Originally there was supposed to be a 5 year gap between the end of Storm of Swords and the 4th book, but after writing a good portion of it that way he decided it left too many questions about the events he would have to tell via flashback, so why not just write that part of the story. Then came the issue with size of the 4th book and the decision by his publishers to split it. The thing I didn't like is aside from one or two characters, most my favorites were moved to the 5th book. I haven't read Feast for a while, but some of the new viewpoints I enjoyed and I get why they were introduced. Some characters POV's are going to make for a more interesting version of events than an existing character would have. The big hang up with book 5 has been him having to explain a few events in detail that he had an outline for but had not fleshed out. There are two that he has posted about that have caused a ton of problems, though I read a report that his publisher was recently saying he was very close to having book 5 done and they are expecting to have it out by April in the US. He is still saying only two more books to complete the series after Dance with Dragons. Every fan of the series is worries about him pulling a Robert Jordan, but that's the risk apparently. Hopefully seeing his series get made into a HBO series will enspire him to stop watching Jets games and get it done.

P.S. WOT sucks.

[BigDMcGee]

Jadaki, on Thursday, December 9th, 2010, 3:16 AM, said:

Some Harry Potter pervert mentioned I should stop by here...Guess I'll spoiler this to not ruin anything for anyone who hasn't read the books or is waiting on the show.In regard to the end of Storm of Swords,

Spoiler

I just don't have the problem with it you do. You have to know based on the first book that Martin has no problem offing main characters. I'm not sure why you think that will drag out the series. There are a few things that play into why books 4 & 5 have taken so long (based off his blog and reports I've read from his appearances). Originally there was supposed to be a 5 year gap between the end of Storm of Swords and the 4th book, but after writing a good portion of it that way he decided it left too many questions about the events he would have to tell via flashback, so why not just write that part of the story. Then came the issue with size of the 4th book and the decision by his publishers to split it. The thing I didn't like is aside from one or two characters, most my favorites were moved to the 5th book. I haven't read Feast for a while, but some of the new viewpoints I enjoyed and I get why they were introduced. Some characters POV's are going to make for a more interesting version of events than an existing character would have. The big hang up with book 5 has been him having to explain a few events in detail that he had an outline for but had not fleshed out. There are two that he has posted about that have caused a ton of problems, though I read a report that his publisher was recently saying he was very close to having book 5 done and they are expecting to have it out by April in the US. He is still saying only two more books to complete the series after Dance with Dragons. Every fan of the series is worries about him pulling a Robert Jordan, but that's the risk apparently. Hopefully seeing his series get made into a HBO series will enspire him to stop watching Jets games and get it done.

P.S. WOT sucks.

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Because instead of drawing the series towards some sort of conclusion, the events at the end of book 3 just open it up for the dozen new plot lines, that have started in book four and presumably book 5. I have no problem with killing characters I like. I do have a problem with building a series up through three long books, and then completely hanging a left turn at the end of book 3.. it's like the series has started over again.

[king_tanner]

To be honest, I was really confused at the beginning of book 4. At first I thought I bought a George RR Martin book but not of the Song of Ice and Fire series because I was confused with all the new characters being introduced. I got used to it though and enjoyed it.

[BigDMcGee]

now I have a bone to pick with wang for giving me the high hat.

[Voldemort]

Jadaki, on Thursday, December 9th, 2010, 4:16 AM, said:

Some Harry Potter pervert mentioned I should stop by here...

Heh....

[Theraflu]

BigDMcGee, on Thursday, December 9th, 2010, 10:34 PM, said:

now I have a bone to pick with wang for giving me the high hat.

He's becoming a father, he has other duties now.

[BigDMcGee]

Theraflu, on Friday, December 10th, 2010, 6:43 AM, said:

He's becoming a father, he has other duties now.

God help us all

[qyayqi]

looks like the series is premiering april 18th.

[Theraflu]

So HBO has sent out like 80 of these little marketing boxes, They have a 6 vials of scents in them, everything looks handmade, and you mix the 3 of the scents together to get a scent for King's Landing and the other 3 for Winterfell. There's some scrolls with instructions and backstory on them.This guy is a bit of a tool, but he goes through the process of opening of the box up and records it all, and gives his reaction to all the stuff.Pretty cool idea for marketing.http://jchutchins.ne...ience-with-j-c/

[Jadaki]

Bump, 2 weeks away. First 15 minutes of the pilot.

[SBriand]

Good review from a guy I usually agree withhttp://www.hitfix.co...-fantasy-series

[king_tanner]

shit I don't have HBOIf someone can find a link that works when the show premieres that would be sooooooo awesome

[SBriand]

My guess will be that fastpasstv.com will hook you up

[Jadaki]

5 new clips posted from the first episodeLast I checked Metacritic it was up to 18 reviews, 15 good 3 bad. The 3 bad ones were mostly ripping on the fantasy stereotypes, the one from the NY times I read sounded like they didn't even watch it.

[Theraflu]

Jadaki, on Thursday, April 14th, 2011, 9:35 PM, said:

5 new clips posted from the first episodeLast I checked Metacritic it was up to 18 reviews, 15 good 3 bad. The 3 bad ones were mostly ripping on the fantasy stereotypes, the one from the NY times I read sounded like they didn't even watch it.

The NYT one was really absurd. I forgot Soprano's didn't do violence, sex, or nudity, and only fantasy D&D geeks could ever like a show that doesn't take place in a real time period or place but has all those things. The show obviously won't be for everyone, but to waste all those words when the only message is "too much blood and sex for me" is a waste of NYT space.Also, she rips the fact that the Dothraki have their own language and subtitles, and that it's stupid because it's a fake language. Maybe she is fluent in most languages and never needs subtitles, but I sure as fuck do for anything other than English.

[FCP Bob]

Really looking forward to this tonight.