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[Ninja Ace]

wow I missed that hand babylon... I've never seen a more terrible shove with kings in my lifealso... i guess I didn't get the memo on reads or what have you... but don't you have to be nearly 100% certain it's never a set to make that call?oh... and I can't HH live games... but I lost a live 1-2 1400 pot AIPF 99 > AA so... I knows fellas... i knows

[babylondonks]

well once he 3bets pre he never can have a low pocket pair and even 99 is a pretty bad spot to squeeze there so deep. Much better to just flop a set and stack fools. Also there's only one combo and even against sets I'm around 31%. What sucks is that it's not often I'm gonna be flipping 400 deep so I doubt variance will set itself straight again too soon

[KingJames]

2nl tho

[BaseJester]

Ninja Ace, on Saturday, March 20th, 2010, 2:28 AM, said:

wow I missed that hand babylon... I've never seen a more terrible shove with kings in my lifealso... i guess I didn't get the memo on reads or what have you... but don't you have to be nearly 100% certain it's never a set to make that call?

The break-even point for the hero to call is if the villain has a set about ~42% of the time.Hero has to call 393.50 - 13 - 67 = 313.50equity pot Pr equity ($)0.5161 787 0.42 170.5916940.31212 787 0.58 142.4702952 Total = 313.0619892

[KingJames]

Villain is this hand is either Droberts, Stupidhead or Babylondonks. But I'll let you guess.Moooooooooooraaawwwr.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 5 playersCO: $4.03 Button: $7.47 SB: $2.00 BB: $4.00 (Hero)UTG: $4.00 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with (5 players)CO raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.04Flop: ($0.13) (3 players)Hero checks, CO bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08Turn: ($0.29) (3 players)Hero checks, CO checksRiver: ($0.29) (3 players)Hero checks, CO bets $3.89, and is all in, Hero calls $3.86, and is all inCO showed , and lost with two pair, Sevens and SixesHero showed , and won ($7.48) with three of a kind, TwosHero won $7.48(Rake: $0.53)

[Ninja Ace]

3bet preFlatting the flop is fine BVB... but I really think you should be raising here... especially against an fcper who will automatically put you on a combo drawalso... if villain is FCPer... that's a horrific shove... I don't mind it so much with top 2 or better... but here... no

[babylondonks]

tbh I think the worst part of the hand is the cbet by CO

[fighter]

KingJames, on Sunday, March 21st, 2010, 6:21 AM, said:

Villain is this hand is either Droberts, Stupidhead or Babylondonks. But I'll let you guess.Moooooooooooraaawwwr.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 5 playersCO: $4.03 Button: $7.47 SB: $2.00 BB: $4.00 (Hero)UTG: $4.00 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with (5 players)CO raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.04Flop: ($0.13) (3 players)Hero checks, CO bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08Turn: ($0.29) (3 players)Hero checks, CO checksRiver: ($0.29) (3 players)Hero checks, CO bets $3.89, and is all in, Hero calls $3.86, and is all inCO showed , and lost with two pair, Sevens and SixesHero showed , and won ($7.48) with three of a kind, TwosHero won $7.48(Rake: $0.53)

PETRA: Eighty-eight World Series, huh? Johnny Chan. Flops the nut straight, and ahs the discipline to wait him out. He knows Seidel's gonna bluff at it.MIKE: Johnny-****ing-Chan.PETRA: Look at the control. He knows his man well enough to check it all the way and risk winning nothing with those cards. He owns him. Poor Seidel. Kid doesn't know what hit him.

[trystero]

babylondonks, on Saturday, March 20th, 2010, 7:15 PM, said:

tbh I think the worst part of the hand is the cbet by CO

Why?I just played an lolliveament...nicely run (aka good buffet) w/ a crapshoot structure. After busting I went to play in the cash game running and I was impressed that at .25/.50 blinds players were buying in for $5. Wanted $50 in chips but the bank couldn't accommodate the high rolling. When I get to the table too like three players are going south like it's no big deal, "I'll cash out $15 thanks." Another highlight was when someone raised, I declared "reraise," and was counting out my size and some dude says I'm making a string bet (because I had put the amount to call the original raise aside) and that my hand should be killed. He did apologize quickly and say that I should only be allowed to call. I'm always surprised by how people who don't actually play poker....play poker.

[Stupidhead]

Ninja Ace, on Saturday, March 20th, 2010, 2:53 PM, said:

3bet preFlatting the flop is fine BVB... but I really think you should be raising here... especially against an fcper who will automatically put you on a combo drawalso... if villain is FCPer... that's a horrific shove... I don't mind it so much with top 2 or better... but here... no

Hiima fish

[SCS]

trystero, on Saturday, March 20th, 2010, 11:30 PM, said:

Why?

Because it's a board that misses CO a lot, and Hero can represent a lot by c/ring the flop.I doubt that it's much of a concern at 2nl though.

[babylondonks]

villain dependent, prob a good cbet if james isn't c/r the nuts here, because then we can hero call down with 67 ldo

[droberts]

why u gotta put my name first in the list of 3.. it auto makes them think its me.. doubt i ever raise 67o in the cutoff either...(god im such a nit)

[SCS]

Stupidhead, on Friday, March 19th, 2010, 11:16 PM, said:

I raise.v1.11Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Absolute NL Hold'em $1.00/$2.00 - 6 playersButton DELUSIONALIS: $168.35 SB DRINKNOW: $665.70 BB DONKEEE85: $151.40 UTG Hero: $585.45 UTG+1 ALLINJOMPA: $419.55 CO GRADYFUND: $208.00 Preflop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with : : (6 players)Hero raises to $6.00, ALLINJOMPA raises to $22.00, GRADYFUND folds, DELUSIONALIS calls $22.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $76.00, ALLINJOMPA calls $54.00, DELUSIONALIS calls $54.00Flop: ($231.00) : : : (3 players)Hero bets $509.45, ALLINJOMPA calls $343.55, DELUSIONALIS calls $92.35Turn: ($1,010.45) : (3 players)River: ($1,010.45) : (3 players)DELUSIONALIS showed : :, Hero showed : :, ALLINJOMPA showed : :, ALLINJOMPA won $500.91ALLINJOMPA won $506.54

I would 4 bet to $200 or so preflop.

[babylondonks]

SCS, on Sunday, March 21st, 2010, 8:16 PM, said:

I would 4 bet to $200 or so preflop.

I didn't realise you hated money

[SCS]

babylondonks, on Sunday, March 21st, 2010, 6:30 AM, said:

I didn't realise you hated money

How often is villain 3 betting really light here?How often are you 4 bet bluffing in this spot?

[babylondonks]

SCS, on Sunday, March 21st, 2010, 10:15 PM, said:

How often is villain 3 betting really light here?How often are you 4 bet bluffing in this spot?

I'm not sure why you're making my argument for me, but ty

[trystero]

SCS, on Sunday, March 21st, 2010, 2:07 AM, said:

Because it's a board that misses CO a lot, and Hero can represent a lot by c/ring the flop.I doubt that it's much of a concern at 2nl though.

Yea and if you check behind villain can rep a lot by firing two barrels because you're clearly checking w/SD value . It works both ways. 67 on that board is fragile; the c/bet is fine.

[Stupidhead]

SCS, on Sunday, March 21st, 2010, 2:16 AM, said:

I would 4 bet to $200 or so preflop.

why?

[KingJames]

HOF discussion about a nutbar hand<3 stupidhead