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[jmbreslin]

Think I butchered this one. Rush, so no reads. Comments on all streets welcome.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comCO ($10.15)Button ($9.44)SB ($21.71)BB ($6.47)UTG ($12.27)UTG+1 ($7.80)MP1 ($9.57)MP2 ($10.52)Hero (MP3) ($10)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 10, 101 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, 3 foldsFlop: ($1.05) 7, 9, 8 (2 players)Hero bets $0.60, Button calls $0.60Turn: ($2.25) 2 (2 players)Hero bets $1.40, Button calls $1.40River: ($5.05) A (2 players)Hero bets $2.50, Button raises to $5, Hero ???

[Syntonic]

No you didn't. Fold.Also, I would probably bet pot on the turn and I'd be more inclined to c/c the river rather than lead out, but I don't hate it.

[trystero]

river's a weird spot. I think I like b/f tbh...because although we'd like him to bluff missed draws, he's got the As in his range, and we're blocking many potential straight draws that he could have.

[SwolyswoND]

I'm not sure what worse hands we expect him to call with when we lead the river. C/c seems better to me, yeah we block a lot of straight draws but there's an awful lot of spade draws out there. I think a stupid hand like K9 is actually more likely to bet the river when checked to, than he is to call our river bet.I also bet much closer to pot on both flop and turn.

[Ninja Ace]

SwolyswoND, on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2010, 7:13 PM, said:

I'm not sure what worse hands we expect him to call with when we lead the river. C/c seems better to me, yeah we block a lot of straight draws but there's an awful lot of spade draws out there. I think a stupid hand like K9 is actually more likely to bet the river when checked to, than he is to call our river bet.I also bet much closer to pot on both flop and turn.

This.On the river our value on this board comes from missed draws (ace isn't a great card for it since it connects with nut draws but oh well) not single pair hands. A good ole c-c is in order, and u may be able to fold to a PSB, but even 2-1 on this board is a difficult laydown.Also he's correct about potting/nearly potting super drawy boards with 100% of your betting range... not to mention we have a pair+draw

[jmbreslin]

I was a bit lost on the river. I didn't want to check and face a big bet and I thought the Ace would be a big scare card if he didn't have one. I don't think I gave careful enough consideration to the fact that it might have hit his range if he's chasing the NFD, nor that repping the Ace myself would mean I most likely fired 2 bullets with missed AK/AQ/AJ hands. Of course I'm not sure if that is too high a thought level for most 10NL players.

[mtdesmoines]

jmbreslin, on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2010, 8:46 PM, said:

Think I butchered this one. Rush, so no reads. Comments on all streets welcome.

I hate your flop bet BTW

[SwolyswoND]

jmbreslin, on Wednesday, March 24th, 2010, 8:38 AM, said:

I was a bit lost on the river. I didn't want to check and face a big bet and I thought the Ace would be a big scare card if he didn't have one. I don't think I gave careful enough consideration to the fact that it might have hit his range if he's chasing the NFD, nor that repping the Ace myself would mean I most likely fired 2 bullets with missed AK/AQ/AJ hands. Of course I'm not sure if that is too high a thought level for most 10NL players.

So you were turning your 2nd pair into a bluff? It's not so much that the Ace hit his range, it's that now he can't really call with any other pair besides an Ace. If villain thinks at ALL (which believe it or not most at least can figure out this much) then they would know that either you were beating them before with a higher PP, or that you had AK/AQ and just drew out. There's not much else you can be betting three streets with.

[rrumsey]

i hate leading on this river, it is a bad card for you, and its hard for you to really rep it to be honest, if we check the river i snap that thing off so quick

[jmbreslin]

mtdesmoines, on Wednesday, March 24th, 2010, 10:36 AM, said:

I hate your flop bet BTW

I seriously don't know when to pot and when not to.

[rrumsey]

jmbreslin, on Wednesday, March 24th, 2010, 10:28 AM, said:

I seriously don't know when to pot and when not to.

a flop this draw heavy needs to be bet hard to price out the really good draws that may be out there/ get value from the draws that are not folding.

[Ninja Ace]

jmbreslin, on Wednesday, March 24th, 2010, 9:28 AM, said:

I seriously don't know when to pot and when not to.

Flops are kind of like vagina's. The wetter they are, the harder you hit them.

[SwolyswoND]

Ninja Ace, on Wednesday, March 24th, 2010, 2:07 PM, said:

Flops are kind of like vagina's. The wetter they are, the harder you hit them.

Sigged

[rrumsey]

Ninja Ace, on Wednesday, March 24th, 2010, 12:07 PM, said:

Flops are kind of like vagina's. The wetter they are, the harder you hit them.

hahaha. love it!

[jmbreslin]

Is that a quote from your forthcoming book, Vagina Poker?

[rrumsey]

jmbreslin, on Wednesday, March 24th, 2010, 6:05 PM, said:

Is that a quote from your forthcoming book, Vagina Poker?

vagina poker is just full ring nlhe ahahah!