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Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:34 PM

CHEAP THIEVES REBUILD YEAR ONE 2017-18

Defense:

AVERAGE AGE:

Forwards:

AVERAGE AGE:

Goalies:

FARM:
(drafted this year in RED)

2018-19 DRAFT PICKS:

FUTURE CAP SPACE:

2019-20
2020-21
2021-22
2022-23
2023-24
2024-25


FUTURE DRAFT PICKS:

2019-20
2020-21
2021-22
2022-23
2023-24
2024-25


TRADES:

WAIVER WIRE:

TEAM STATS:
GP/G/A/P/PP

GP GA GAA

GP W L OTL P F D GA +/-
Record:

PLAYOFFS

TEAM STATS:
GP/G/A/P/PP

GP/GA/GAA
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:34 PM

CHEAP THIEVES REBUILD YEAR ONE 2017-18

Defense:
Brent Seabrook, CHI. $7.00 $7.75 (Age 34)
Travis Hamonic, CAL. $0.75 (Age 27)
Damon Severson, NJ. $0.75 $0.75 $0.75 (Age 23)
Matt Grzelcyk, BOS. $0.25 (Age 23)
MacKenzie Weegar, FLA. $0.25 (Age 23)
Chris Bigras, COL. $0.25 (Age 22)
Alexandre, Carrier, NSH. $0.25 (Age 20)
AVERAGE AGE: 24.3

Forwards:
David Backes, BOS. $8.00 (Age 33)
Jason Pominville, BUF. $5.75 (Age 34)
Brett Connolly, WAS. $3.75 (Age 25)
Nail Yakupov, COL. $2.00 (Age 23)
Jayce Hawryluk, FLA. $1.50 (Age 21) AHO ELIGIBLE
Colin White, OTT. $1.50 (Age 20) AHO ELIGIBLE
Jussi Jokinen, EDM. $1.00 (Age 34)
Casey Cizikas, NYI. $0.50 $0.50 $0.50 (Age 26)
Jordan Martinook, ARI. $0.50 $0.50 (Age 25)
Tomas Nosek, VGK. $0.25 (Age 25) AHO ELIGIBLE
Kenny Agostino, BOS. $0.25 (Age 25) AHO ELIGIBLE
Nick Lappin, NJ. $0.25 (Age 24)
Mike Vecchione, PHI. $0.25 (Age 24) AHO ELIGIBLE
Kalle Kossila, ANA. $0.25 (Age 24) AHO ELIGIBLE
Tyler Graovac, WAS. $0.25 (Age 24)
Jujhar Khaira, EDM. $0.25 (Age 23) AHO ELIGIBLE
Dominik Simon, PIT. $0.25 (Age 23) AHO ELIGIBLE
Martin Frk, DET. $0.25 (Age 23) AHO ELIGIBLE
Remi Elie, DAL. $0.25 (Age 22) AHO ELIGIBLE
Sean Malone, BUF. $0.25 (Age 22) AHO ELIGIBLE
AVERAGE AGE: 25.0

Goalies:
Buffalo, BUF. $0.25
Vancouver, VAN. $0.25
Colorado, COL. $0.25

FARM:
(drafted this year in RED)

D Ian Mitchell, CHI. $1.00
D Connor Hobbs, WAS. $0.50
Nolan Patrick, PHI. $3.00
Logan Brown, OTT. $2.50
Brett Howden, TB. $2.50
Klim Kostin, STL. $2.50
Sebastian Aho, CAR. $2.00
Jeremy Bracco, TOR. $2.00
Kole Lind, VAN. $2.00
Jason Robertson, DAL. $2.00
Jaret Anderson-Dolan, LA. $2.00
Jesper Boqvist, NJ. $1.50
Joni Ikonen, MTL. $1.50
Antoine Morand, ANA. $1.50
Mitchell Stephens, TB. $1.00
Vitaliy Abramov, CLB. $1.00
Roope Hintz, DAL. $0.50
David Kase, PHI. $0.50
Jonathan Dahlen, VAN. $0.50
Dillon Dube, CAL. $0.50

2017-18 DRAFT PICKS:

2nd Nolan Patrick, PHI.
17th Klim Kostin, STL.
24th Kole Lind, VAN.
25th Jason Robertson, DAL.
26th Jaret Anderson-Dolan, LA.
33rd Joni Ikonen, MTL.
36th Jesper Boqvist, NJ.
37th Antoine Morand, ANA.
44th D Ian Mitchell, CHI.
71st D Connor Hobbs, WAS.

FUTURE CAP SPACE:

2018-19 $64.00
2019-20 $65.25
2020-21 $65.75
2021-22 $66.00
2022-23 $63.25
2023-24 $60.00
2024-25 $60.00

FUTURE DRAFT PICKS:

2018-19: OWN 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th Shooters 1st, Whalers 2nd (6 total)
2019-20: OWN 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th Shooters 2nd (5 total)
2020-21: OWN 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th Gothic 1st (5 total)
2021-22: OWN 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th Gothic 1st (5 total)
2022-23: OWN 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th (4 total)
2023-24: OWN 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th (4 total)
2024-25: OWN 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th (4 total)


TRADES:

Sept 22nd, 2017
F Joe Thornton, SJ. $3.75

To PK Dealers For:
2019-20 $1.00
2020-21 $1.50
2021-22 $2.00

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Oct 4th, 2017
F Jordan Martinook, ANA. $0.50 $0.50
$0.75 in 2018-19

To Broadway For
D Paul Ladue, LA. $.50

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Oct 8th, 2017

D Brent Seabrook, CHI. 7.00 7.75
$12 2018-19

To Underdogs For:
2021-22 1st rd pick
2022-23 4th rd pick
2023-24 4th rd pick
2019-20 $2.00
2020-21 $2.00
2021-22 $2.00
2022-23 $2.00

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Nov 9th, 2017

Vancouver Goalies 0.25

To Shoot Loose For:
Florida Goalies 0.50
2023-24 4th rd pick

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Jan 30th, 2018

F Brett Connolly, WAS.
$5.00 2018-19

To PK Dealers For:

F Joe Thornton, SJ.
$5.00 2023-24
$0.50 2024-25


WAIVER WIRE:

Oct 8th
Alex Iafallo, LA. DENIED
D Jan Rutta, CHI. DENIED

Oct 15th
D Joakim Ryan, SJ ACCEPTED
D Tucker Poolman, WPG. DENIED

Oct 29th
D Kurtis MacDermid, LA. DENIED
F Chris Wagner, ANA. DENIED

Nov 5th
F Chandler Stephenson, WAS. DENIED
F Jordan Szwarz, BOS. ACCEPTED

Nov 12th
F Dryden Hunt, FLA. DENIED

Nov 26th
F Danick Martel, PHI. DENIED

Dec 31st
F Vinnie Letteri, NYR. DENIED

Jan 7th
D Sebastian Aho, NYI ACCEPTED
F Andrew Mangiapane, CAL. DENIED
F David Kampf, CHI. ACCEPTED

F Sean Malone, BUF. RELEASED******
F Tyler Graovac, WAS. RELEASED******

Jan 14th
D Erik Gustafsson, CHI. ACCEPTED

F Jussi Jokinen, LAK. RELEASED******
D Travis Hamonic, CAL. RELEASED*****

AHO CALL UP
F Nolan Patrick, PHI.

Feb 4th
D Kyle Capobianco, ARI. DENIED

Feb 11th

D John Gilmour, NYR. DENIED
D Carl Dahlstrom, CHI. DENIED
F Barclay Goodrow, SJ ACCEPTED
F Devin Shore, DAL. ACCEPTED


F Nick Lappin, NJ. RELEASED*****
F Mike Vecchione, PHI. RELEASED*****

TEAM STATS:
GP/G/A/P/PP
David Backes, BOS. 32 9-11-20 14.5
Jason Pominville, BUF. 50 8-8-16 12
Brett Connolly, WAS. 28 9-2-11 10
Nail Yakupov, COL. 41 7-6-13 10
Martin Frk, DET. 35 8-4-12 10
Jujhar Khaira, EDM. 27 6-3-9 7.5
Remi Elie, DAL. 25 3-4-7 5
Casey Cizikas, NYI. 31 1-5-6 3.5
Tomas Nosek, VGK. 25 2-2-4 3
Nolan Patrick, PHI. 11 2-1-3 2.5
Dominik Simon, PIT. 17 1-2-3 2
Sebastian Aho, CAR. 9 0-4-4 2
David Kampf, CHI. 10 1-1-2 1.5
Jussi Jokinen, LA. 16 1-1-2 1.5
Jordan Szwarz, BOS. 5 0-3-3 1.5
Kenny Agostino, BOS. 5 0-1-1 0.5
Tyler Graovac, WAS. 2 0-0-0 0
Kalle Kossila, ANA. 2 0-0-0 0
Colin White, OTT. 2 0-0-0 0
Barclay Goodrow, SJ. 3 0-0-0 0
Devin Shore, DAL. 1-0-0-0 0

Damon Severson, NJ. 46 9-5-14 11.5
Matt Grzelcyk, BOS. 30 1-5-6 3.5
Mackenzie Weegar, FLA. 24 1-3-4 2.5
Brent Seabrook, CHI. 2 1-2-3 2.0
Travis Hamonic, CAL. 27 1-2-3 2
Joakim Ryan, SJ 31 0-3-3 1.5
Erik Gustafsson, CHI. 10 0-1-1 0.5
Chris Bigras, COL. 10 0-1-1 0.5
Sebastian Aho, NYI. 11 0-1-1 0.5
Paul Ladue, LA. 2 0-0-0 0

GP GA GAA
VANCOUVER 5 12 2.40
COLORADO 28 75 2.679
FLORIDA 14 42 3.000 (3 14 previous team)
BUFFALO 22 82 3.727


GP W L OTL P F D GA +/-
Record: 73 16-55-2 34 87 (20th) 24.5 (20th) 229 (17th) -3 (20th)


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PLAYOFFS

TEAM STATS:
GP/G/A/P/PP
Nolan Patrick, PHI 4 3-0-3 3
Sebastian Aho, CAR. 4 2-1-3 2.5
Jujhar Khaira, EDM. 6 2-0-2 2
David Backes, BOS. 5 1-1-2 1.5
Barclay Goodrow, SJ. 5 1-1-2 1.5
Jason Pominville, BUF. 3 0-2-2 1
Devin Shore, DAL. 3 1-0-1 1
Tomas Nosek, VGK. 2 0-1-1 0.5
Martin Frk, DET. 2 0-0-0 0
Casey Cizikas, NYI. 1 0-0-0 0
Dominik Simon, PIT. 1 0-0-0 0
Nail Yakupov, COL. 2 0-0-0 0

D Joakim Ryan, SJ. 5 1-1-2 1.5
D Damon Severson, NJ. 6 0-2-2 1
D Matt Grelcyk, BOS. 4 1-0-1 1
D Erik Gustafsson, CHI. 2 0-1-1 0.5
D Sebastian Aho, NYI. 3 0-1-1 0.5
D MacKenzie Weegar, FLA. 3 0-0-0 0


GP/GA/GAA
BUFFALO 1 1 1.000
FLORIDA 5 12 2.4000
COLORADO 1 4 4.000



REJECT CUP PLAYOFFS
Game 1 Cheap Thieves 1.5 Puck Warfare 0.5
Game 2 Cheap Thieves 1 Puck Warfare 1 (Thieves win OT)
Game 3 Puck Warfare 3 Cheap Thieves 0
Game 4 Puck Warfare 2.5 Cheap Thieves 1.5
Game 5 Cheap Thieves 2.5 Puck Warfare 1.5
Game 6 Puck Warfare 3 Cheap Thieves 2.5
Game 7 Puck Warfare 1 Cheap Thieves 0

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Final NHL Stats 2017-18 (GP G A P PP PPPG)

David Backes, BOS. 57 14-19-33 23.5 .412
Jason Pominville, BUF. 82 16-18-34 25 .305
Nolan Patrick, PHI. 73 13-17-30 21.5 .295
Martin Frk, DET. 68 11-14-25 18 .265
Devin Shore, DAL. 82 11-21-32 21.5 .262
Dominik Simon, PIT. 33 4-8-12 8 .242
Jujhar Khaira, EDM. 69 11-10-21 16 .232
Barclay Goodrow, SJ. 47 7-7-14 10.5 .223
Nail Yakupov, COL. 58 9-7-16 12.5 .216
Colin White, OTT. 21 2-4-6 4 .190
Casey Cizikas, NYI. 64 7-10-17 12 .188
Tomas Nosek, VGK. 67 7-8-15 11 .164
David Kampf, CHI. 46 4-7-11 7.5 .163
Kalle Kossila, ANA. 10 1-1-2 1.5 .150
Remi Elie, DAL. 72 6-8-14 10 .139
Jordan Szwarz, BOS. 12 0-3-3 1.5 .125
Kenny Agostino, BOS. 5 0-1-1 0.5 .100

D Erik Gustafsson, CHI. 35 5-11-16 10.5 .300
D Paul Ladue, LA. 12 3-1-4 3.5 .292
D Damon Severson, NJ. 76 9-15-24 16.5 .217
D Matt Grzelcyk, BOS. 61 3-12-15 9 .148
D Joakim Ryan, SJ. 62 3-9-12 7.5 .121
D Sebastian Aho, NYI. 22 1-3-4 2.5 .114
D Mackenzie Weegar, FLA. 60 2-6-8 5 .083
D Chris Bigras, COL. 15 0-1-1 0.5 .033

G COLORADO 2.88
G FLORIDA 2.96
G BUFFALO 3.39

Leaders:
Goals Jason Pominville, BUF. 16
Assists Devin Shore, DAL. 21
Points Jason Pominville, BUF 34
Pool Points Jason Pominville, BUF. 25
Pool Points Per Game Avg (Min 25 games) David Backes, BOS. .412

Defense Leaders:
Goals Damon Severson, NJ. 9
Assists Damon Severson, NJ. 15
Points Damon Severson, NJ. 24
Pool Points Damon Severson, NJ. 16.5
Pool Points Per Game Erik Gustafsson, CHI. .300

Rookie Leaders:
Goals Nolan Patrick, PHI. 13
Assists Nolan Patrick, PHI. 17
Points Nolan Patrick, PHI. 30
Pool Points Nolan Patrick, PHI. 21.5
Pool Points Per Game Nolan Patrick, PHI. .295


***Only listed players who were signed to a contract during the season and played an NHL Game***
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 04:54 PM

Early expectations for what this team will look like as well as goals for the season.


Salary Cap: Will likely sit again at the cap floor, but expect this years team to be much better. In order to make room for farm assets we called up Colin White and Jayce Hawryluk prematurely and they didn't figure in at all in season one. I can't imagine they are outside the NHL next season, but it remains to be seen what kind of production they can produce. Much of the team that is retained will have a .25 salary and the team will likely call up 4-5 players from the farm also which will up the total amount paid to players we are keeping. With a $40 cap coming into the draft, and a $30 floor in season, we should be able to get either one or two really high priced free agents with the intention of flipping them for futures. We can sign the whole team for less than $10 in terms of assets we are keeping, White and Hawryluk being at the high end of that.

Goals: We think that a Reject Cup is reasonable next season. We came in at the bottom seed this season, but expect to come in at a much higher seed next year. Not quite enough to actually make the playoffs, but closer to the playoffs than the absolute bottom. Too early to tell if we'll pick up a player in the 2018 NHL draft that will go directly to the NHL since we fell to 4th overall. Brady Tkachuk could go straight the NHL if that's where the team decided to go with the first pick, but it's unlikely. We do expect to see some farm players in the NHL this season and they will get Toewes immediately to make room for more picks on the farm. Hopefully we don't have the same fate with that move as we did with Colin White and Jayce Hawryluk.

Below we will take a look at the likely fate of the 2017-18 squad as well as hopes for the farm.


Cheap Thieves Roster Keeper Assets in Order of Value:

1. F Nolan Patrick, PHI- Will be Aho'd and signed for two more years at $3.00. He has really come on of late and could lead the team in scoring next season.
2. D Damon Severson, NJ.- Already signed for two more years and at a decent $.0.75 salary. Hopeful he can post a .250 PPPG next season with upside.
3. F Jujhar Khaira, EDM.-Could be signed to an Aho contract at .25 for two more years. Not a lot of upside offensively, but minimal risk.
4. F Dominik Simon, PIT.-Could be signed to an Aho contract at .25 for two more years. Has some upside offensively, with minimal risk.
5. D Joakim Ryan, SJ.-played top line minutes as a rookie and has started to put up some points. 100% to be signed to .25 Aho contract.
6. D Sebastian Aho, NYI.-hasn't been given a ton of minutes but looks good as a rookie. Will be signed to a .25 Aho contract.
7. D Matt Grzelcyk, BOS.-mostly a regular as a rookie in Boston. Will be signed to a .25 Aho contract.
8. F Colin White, OTT.-burned a year of his contract, but will need to sign him to an Aho contract at $1.50. He may also get moved to make room for Logan Brown.
9. F Jayce Hawryluk, FLA.-he knows how to party, this much I know! Not getting a chance in Florida, will be signed to a $1.50 Aho with little expectation.
10. D Erik Gustafsson, CHI.-depending what happens in the off season he could get a .25 one year contract. Not Aho eligible.
11. D Mackenzie Weegar, FLA.-offensive upside hasn't materialized, but likely to get a .25 Aho contract in the hopes of a bigger role for Florida.
12. F Martin Frk, DET.-looked like a good rookie season, but not getting even strength minutes and has been a healthy scratch. Likely still for a .25 Aho contract.
13. F Devin Shore, DAL.-doesn't figure into future plans with the team.
14. F Tomas Nosek, VGK.-I own a jersey, but he has hands of stone and I don't expect to sign him despite being Aho eligible at .25
15. F David Kampf, CHI.- could Aho him for .25, but he is another one that is on the fence of being kept. Will depend on how many roster spots we have left.
16. F Barclay Goodrow, SJ.- won't be resigned.
17. F Kalle Kossila, ANA.-frustrating, huge output in the AHL but not given much of a chance in ANA. Could Aho him, but he may be a career AHLer.
18. F Nail Yakupov, COL.- showed flashes early, but the 1st overall pick has spent 4 straight as a healthy scratch and likely won't be resigned.
19. F Remi Elie, DAL.- Aho eligible for .25, hasn't shown a ton of offense and we have Roope Hintz & Jason Robertson in DAL knocking on the door. Another on the fence.
20. F Joe Thorton, SJ.-could trade if there is a market after injury, otherwise he won't be kept.
21. F Kenny Agostino, BOS.- Aho eligible for .25 but we waited to see what he could do at the NHL level and it wasn't impressive. Likely gone.
22. F Jordan Szwarz, BOS.- At 26, Szwarz is too old for what this team wants to do and he hasn't made an impact at the NHL level. Gone.
23. D Alexander Carrier, NSH.- Didn't play an NHL game and has some AHL experience but won't crack NSH blueline any tome soon. Goner.
24. F Casey Cizikas, NYI.- Signed for two more years at .50 he may be bought out to simply make room for new blood.
25. D Chris Bigras, NYR.- deadbeat running out of chances. Move to NYR could help, but he has gotten a look in the NHL and it wasn't good. Gone.
26. D Paul Ladue, LA.- we traded for him expecting him to make the team, but it's not going to happen and we aren't resigning him at .50
27. F Jason Pominville, BUF.- thanks for your service. Contract expired and $5.75 comes off the books.
28. F David Backes, BOS.- We took on the salary to reach the cap floor and he led the team in scoring. Obviously not an $8 player.


Farm Assets Ranked as Most Valuable:

1. F Sebastian Aho, CAR. 2.00- Will be Toewes call up and should be the star of the team. The best player in the system right now. Should lead team in scoring.
2. F Jonathan Dahlen, VAN. 0.50- Great season in Europe, next season could be the time to help a rebuilding franchise. Would like to Toewes/Aho this season.
3. F Klim Kostin, STL. 2.50- In the AHL now, STL is deep at forward so he may need another season in the AHL. Unlikely to be called up till 19-20.
4. F Kole Lind, VAN. 2.00- Signed an NHL contract, lighting up the WHL, should be an AHLer this season. Call up in 19-20.
5. F Vitali Abramov, CLB 1.00- Has to go pro this season. Columbus could use him. Will make a jump to AHL and could be called up this season.
6. F Dillon Dube, CAL. .50- Great season in WHL, really cheap price, might have to call him up this year despite not being a lock to make the Flames.
7. F Jason Robertson, DAL. 2.00- Scorer, not NHL ready just yet, hopeful to call him up no later than 20-21.
8. F Logan Brown, OTT. 2.50- Played 4 games with Ottawa, team is in a rebuild, he could win a job. We also have White, so hopeful we can wait a year till 19-20 for callup.
9. F Jaret-Anderson Dolan, LA. 2.00- Really turning it on! Good chance he plays a season in the AHL then room should be there for him in 19-20.
10. D Ian Mitchell, CHI. 1.00- producing in the NCAA. Still a few years away but there is promise. Expect a call up in 21-22.
11. F Brett Howden, NYR. 2.50- the move to NYR should see him in NYR this coming season. Likely to be Toewes/Aho'd this season.
12. F Mitchell Stephens, TB.- scoring at the AHL level, two way player that could play a 4th line role in TB next season. Hopeful he can be Toewes/Aho'd
13. F Jeremy Bracco, TOR. 2.00- coming around in TOR. Might not be ready to make the jump since Leafs are deep at forward. Hopeful for a 19-20 call up.
14. F Roope Hintz, DAL. 0.50- has done "OK" in the AHL. He is a cheap one at .50 so could be called up to the Thieves early, this coming season.
15. F Jesper Boqvist, NJ. 1.50- injured to start the year, he is a few years away from playing in the NHL. Hopeful to call him up by 2021-22.
16. F Antoine Morand, ANA. 1.50- not in love with this pick. He is producing OK, but no expectations to call him up till 2021-22.
17. F Joni Ikonen, MTL. 1.50- stock dropping, despite scouts still being high on him. It was a stretch pick, hoping he develops and is called up for 2021-22.
18. D Connor Hobbs, WAS. 0.50- not impressed with his production. Had some hope he could be in WAS this year, most likely 2019-20.
19. F David Kase, PHI. 0.50 +1- A Euro project that is starting to produce a little, but he may be sacrificed if we can't make the room to keep him.
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 05:06 PM

Early Look at 2018-19 Roster going into the draft.


Defense:
1. Damon Severson, NJ. .75 .75
2. Erik Gustafsson, CHI. .25
3. Joakim Ryan, SJ. .25 .25
4. MacKenzie Weegar, FLA. .25 .25
5. Matt Grzelcyk, BOS. .25 .25
6. Sebastian Aho, NYI. .25 .25
Total Salary: $2.00

Forwards:
1. Nolan Patrick, PHI. 3.00 3.00
2. Colin White, OTT. 1.50 1.50
3. Jayce Hawryluk, FLA. 1.50 1.50
4. Dominik Simon, PIT. .25 .25
5. Jujhar Khaira, EDM. .25 .25
6. Martin Frk, DET. .25 .25
Total Salary: $6.75

$8.75 spend on 12 players.
$31.25 to spend on 11 players and 3 goalies

Toewes Rule Call Up:
Sebastian Aho, CAR. 2.00
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