Vinnie_Terranova, on Sunday, March 2nd, 2008, 1:18 AM, said:
He'll be back when his period is over. ZING!To early for jokes?
See, now this really pisses me off.Suited, I'm not coming at you like a douche, but if it comes out that way, then I'm being a douch
e, and really, right now, I don't care. I'm calling this one out the way I see it, and I don't care how many people I piss off by doing this.When I first started posting in the Hideout, here's what it was: a bunch of dudes (and an occasional chick if Lori, renae, or Nikki stopped by) shooting the breeze. There was no flare, there was no need to have a ton of posts in the thread. Just quality discussion, the occasional Hand History, and a bunch of fun stories.Not only did I start posting in here, I invited a bunch of people in here too; a bunch of (then) newbs, and a couple of guys I literally talked to once or twice on here. Various people who have jumped into the Hideout upon my recommendation included:onlymeDr. MarioDMBrollerscottynoDogpatchrickeraadamschrozzoThere's probably others that I don't even remember. But I do remember these guys coming in when I told them it was a cool place to chill. You probably don't know a couple of those names on that list, but believe me, when they were in this thread, they contributed. And not just by padding their post counts or by padding the Hideout post count (which is retarded, why should we padding this place with posts. We've never been about competing with the sick thread or the army in total posts, and by this time, it's impossible to catch up.), by actually saying stuff.Before all the crap happened to me last year that prevented me from frequenting the Hideout as much as I had in 2006, here's what I remember:Low amounts of posts per day in the Hideout compared to other superthreadsLittle to no e-gay (usually only presented by CardWarfare)Little to no hand histories (usually only presented by me or double)Little to no joke accounts, only posted when the situation truly called for it.A wide variety of TOPs (the only repeats were CardWarfare posting Kelly Clarkson, and even he had the wisdom to mix it up, and not hog every top)Since then, I have found it hard to even look at this thread. aadams asked me about a month or so ago why I wasn't in the hideout, and I told him I wasn't feeling it. It holds true, but with the influx of the old school posters like double, Fphillips, Napa, Kuge, powerpoker, scotty, shawn, and, on occasion, CDub, I had to drop in.But pretty much every page (save the ones with Guapo's Hideout meet stories on them, which are amazing), has become an eyesore, because of the following:You hogging all the TOPs, and posting the same pictures of Emma Watson over and over again.Every page having 75% of the posts being from you, ShiaLebouf, or Vinnie Terranova, which, in all intents and purposes, you padding post counts on both your account, your joke accounts, and the hideout.Mass amounts of e-gay, stemming for you mostly. Seriously, it was funny in April. Not funny anymore.Chrozzo posting links to his JTV page when he has his own thread in OT about it.If I looked back, most of the last 200 pages look almost exactly the same, give and take some of the context, but pretty much, yeah, the last page warmed over. It's getting old.When someone calls you out over it, you just play it back in their faces, and continue with the same stunts.Seriously, if this was real life, and we were spending time with you at this point, and you continued to do this over and over and over again, with me, shawn, and avi all calling you out about it until we're blue in the face, people would either 1) stop coming around you, or 2) stop inviting you over.2 is not logical with the hideout, but with the state the hideout is in right now, as sad as it is for me to say this, as i've pretty much tried to weather this as much as possible, for my love of this thread and in respect to Golden, I'm prepared to resort to #1. As in, leaving the hideout, and starting a new OT superthread in its image, with the sole purpose of shooting the breeze like it was done in 2006, without joke accounts, without e-gay, without all this BS that I have seen in the last few months in the Hideout.Now, I'm not trying to come off as a jerk, because I do like you man. You seem like a good man, but this whole circumstance going on right now, including the fact, that as of the last couple pages, you have pissed off/ran off Shawn, who is getting close to a brother to me right now, by scoffing at his posts about what is going on in this thread right now, rubbing it in his nose, then gloating at the fact that you ran him off.I can see the reasons you asked cossack to leave. HOWEVER, this thread has been, and will always be, no membership required. Voting someone out of this thread is an oxymoron to that statment. Read the OP of this thread. And even if that banishment was justified, running Shawn off by going "hahawtf Shawn don't like my Emma/Vinnie stuff. I'll do it more, really piss him off, get him gone," was completely uncalled for.We tolerated JMoney, even though we were talking in the batcave about how much we couldn't stand him. We didn't force him out; we just waited for him to get banned, and he did. We tolerated teneight, we tolerated cuin4, they both left.You guys threw someone out of this thread. In my days, there would've been flames shooting back and forth about this. Now, you guys are like zOMGLOLSURVIVORAMENTS to the guy. And that's just sad.No drama, from any thread outside of the hideout ever entered this thread, until the day you decided to throw cossack out for rolling someone in GenPoker. GenPoker you guys. If this had happened in the hideout, you would have some merit, but you guys lose all the merit in the world when this happens outside of this thread.Before you guys call me hypocritical over JMoney, that was discussed in the batcave, and in my knowledge was never brought up in the Hideout, unless Avi mentioned it in passing; but no one ever asked for his eviction from this thread.This post is already longer than I wanted it to be. In jest: I love this thread. It was my e-home for quite a while on here, and I truly got comfortable on FCP because of this thread. But, if this place doesn't start shaping up to the point where it truly is about shooting it like it used to be about, I'm leaving the thread, and will create a new place to do so. While people probably won't stop posting in here, if they truly are concerned about the general discussion of the days of old, they will be posting in mine as well.That is all.EDIT: I want to get this all out before Suited reads/responds/reacts, so that I won't have to add in anymore in the event that I leave. If I leave, my next post in here will be a "GG Hideout" post, short but sweet, and will be my last one in this thread.Me, shawn, and a lot of people have discussed this. No one reads back anymore. They just jump into the new page, because it's usually the same thing as the last page. As a result, valuable discussion points that could've been discussed, and various posts that should've been/needed to be responded to are overlooked.Also note that hardly anyone other than Suited, Suited, Suited, and Suited posts TOPs anymore. Because it has become pointless now, when in 10 minutes, Suited will have posted his way to a new page, and gotten a TOP to put emma in, and since no one backtracks anymore...In fact, to further illustrate my point:(04:19:02 AM) OnLyMe386: wandigo IMs me occassionally(04:19:08 AM) OnLyMe386: "wtf is with this stupid bitch TOP?"What's sad is Wandigo used to post in here quite a lot, and was yet another valuable contributor to this thread.Sigh...I think my tenure in this thread is coming to an end.