Mercury69 3 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Someone needs to photoshop McCain's head on a Mighty Mouse body... Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Is McCain batman? Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 COme on, people!!! One of the "savviest" political decisions of all time and it takes a Canuck to post the thread about it??? Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 COme on, people!!! One of the "savviest" political decisions of all time and it takes a Canuck to post the thread about it???What's it like being Canadian talking about American politics? Do you feel left out? Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 OK, that's pretty funny. "If you won't vote for me, I'm gonna take my ball and go home!"Unless he's going to use his wife's millions to bail out the bad mortgages, this is the stupidest campaign tactic of the year, and that's saying a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 This is very silly, especially since the fundamentals of our economy are strong! Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 The more I think about this, the more stupid it is. I thought they ran this kind of decision through polls and trial balloons. This one rings of McCain and another guy sitting in a room drinking, and one says "hey, let's stop campaigning and say it's to fix the economy!". The other "that's gold! Run with it!"Who thinks1) this is anything other than a political move,AND2) McCain will singlehandedly solve the nations economic problems by taking a few days off from campaigning.My head hurts from trying to unravel the stupidity of this move. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 A CNN reporter says someone high up in the Obama camp told her that early this morning, Obama "reached out" to McCain to suggest something like this and about issuing a joint statement. looks like McCain went independant. Sucker punch? Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 A CNN reporter says someone high up in the Obama camp told her that early this morning, Obama "reached out" to McCain to suggest something like this and about issuing a joint statement. looks like McCain went independant. Sucker punch?Well, at least that would make a little sense, but all Obama has to do now is laugh at him and point out the ridiculousness of a 70-something guy sitting in a room poring over economic reports and coming up with some solution that nobody else has thought of yet. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 First of all the whole "single handed" hasn't even been implied by McCain. So can we drop that crap?But, yeah, this sounds and feels as stupid as his announcement of Palin as running mate - of course that worked pretty well for him at the very least in the short run.I personally think it is likely a political move - however the truth of the matter is that both parties are fiddling while Rome burns. Time to suspend the partisan crap and actually take some freaking action. How many trillions of dollars have been spent during this current Congress and how many significant pieces of legislation to show for it? Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 But what's Obama's move? I think he has to agree to it, right? Move the debate back a day or two. Otherwise, McCain can say that he's just focused on politics (which McCain is by doing this in the first place). Link to post Share on other sites
gobears 0 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 But what's Obama's move? I think he has to agree to it, right? Move the debate back a day or two. Otherwise, McCain can say that he's just focused on politics (which McCain is by doing this in the first place).Reid just came out with a statement - I'm sure after talking with Obama.This is a critical time for our country. While I appreciate that both candidates have signaled their willingness to help, Congress and the Administration have a process in place to reach a solution to this unprecedented financial crisis.I understand that the candidates are putting together a joint statement at Senator Obama’s suggestion. But it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation’s economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op.If there were ever a time for both candidates to hold a debate before the American people about this serious challenge, it is now. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 Yeah, "single-handedly" was pretty facetious, but the implication is that McCain's participation will tip the scales in favour of resolution, no? Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Yeah, "single-handedly" was pretty facetious, but the implication is that McCain's participation will tip the scales in favour of resolution, no?No, the implication was that the entire Nation's Leadership - explicitly including BOTH Obama and McCain - is needed to meet IMMEDIATELY to address the Perceived Crisis. He never implied that he was going to be the key element to tip any scales."I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself," McCain told reporters in New York. "It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem." Link to post Share on other sites
Pack149 0 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Doing his job instead of finger pointing in a time of economic crisis......What a strange idea Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 My concern is the implication that the Government needs to come in to save the day with a single stroke of a pen to spend a Trillion or so dollars to "fix" the problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 No, the implication was that the entire Nation's Leadership - explicitly including BOTH Obama and McCain - is needed to meet IMMEDIATELY to address the Perceived Crisis. He never implied that he was going to be the key element to tip any scales."I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself," McCain told reporters in New York. "It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem."I certainly agree with your assessment, but now plenty of people who don't know any better are going to associate McCain and any resolution of this crisis as one and the same, which could be great or horrible, depending on the outcome. McCain addressed the nation first and will be attributed with the "picked up the ball and ran with it" scenario. Many pundits will be crowing about McCain's resolve and determination, yet others will be left wondering where their next source of campaign entertainment will comefrom. This is the big show, baby! La-da-da-da-daaaaaa, I'm lovin' it!PS: I'm still waiting for the photoshop job...anyone on that yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Zealous Donkey 0 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I certainly agree with your assessment, but now plenty of people who don't know any better are going to associate McCain and any resolution of this crisis as one and the same, which could be great or horrible, depending on the outcome. McCain addressed the nation first and will be attributed with the "picked up the ball and ran with it" scenario. Many pundits will be crowing about McCain's resolve and determination, yet others will be left wondering where their next source of campaign entertainment will comefrom. This is the big show, baby! La-da-da-da-daaaaaa, I'm lovin' it!McCain already did try to help stop this mess in 2005, why he is running around like a chicken with his head cut off now is bewildering and is probably I hate to say driven by politics. I will withhold my judgement for now. He was on the mark back in 05, why he is going off half-cocked now I have no idea. George Will blistered him a column a couple of days ago. http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/will092308.php3 Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 Mr. Will, you had me at "interstices".I'd also be happy to campaign under the slogan: "Off with their heads!" Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 What would be the result of a $Trillion bail out be?The US$ has got to go down with that what 10-20%? I don't know but there has to be some implications of such a deficit and is the cure worse than the disease?Oh and a lot of people knew the housing bubble was a problem just look at the stock thread. Oh anouncements by a politician being political!!!!!! OMG Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 A short time later, Mr. Obama appeared in a hastily arranged news conference in Florida and said he agreed that “there are times for politics and there are times to rise above politics and do what’s right.”But Mr. Obama disagreed on the need to cancel the debate, scheduled for Friday night at the University of Mississaippi. “This is exactly the time when people need to hear from the candidates,” he said.He added: “Part of the president’s job is to deal with more than one thing at once. In my mind it’s more important than ever.”Mr. Obama noted that while Mr. McCain brought up the possibility of canceling their debate during a phone conversation, no agreement had been reached.For now, the Illinois Democrat said he had no immediate plans to return to Washington, noting that he did not want to infuse Capitol Hill with “presidential politics.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/us/polit...amp;oref=slogin Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I think it was a genius move by the McCain campaign. Just when the tide is turning Obama's way they come up with a stunt like this to help boost McCain as the "reformer" who is above politics and just wants what's best for the country. I can just hear it now, "I was back in Washington during the most significant financial crisis of our time while you were out pandering for votes." They were brilliant. No matter how Obama responded to this they'll have talking points to paint him in a bad light. Gotta hand it to the GOP, they are really good at this whole politics thing. Link to post Share on other sites
fatman 1 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Gotta hand it to the GOP, they are really good at this whole politics thing.That's why we usually win......oh, we are also on the right side of all the issues. Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I think it was a genius move by the McCain campaign. Just when the tide is turning Obama's way they come up with a stunt like this to help boost McCain as the "reformer" who is above politics and just wants what's best for the country. I can just hear it now, "I was back in Washington during the most significant financial crisis of our time while you were out pandering for votes." They were brilliant. No matter how Obama responded to this they'll have talking points to paint him in a bad light. Gotta hand it to the GOP, they are really good at this whole politics thing. It was the correct thing to do, and a "genius move." That being said, Republicans already know he wants the best for is country. It's Independents that need convincing. Not true. If Obama said,"Hey, you know what, let's take a few days, do our jobs" that would have been PRESIDENTIAL. As it is he wants to do the only thing he does, which is talk. It's a mistake on his part. If he believes he is not needed in his seat that certainly does publicly marginalize what it is he does, doesn't it? "Meh, they don't really need us." Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 If Congress does 'fix it'Then there's October's commercials:I'm John Mccain, when the country needed action, I dropped my personal business and invested my time in helping work on the problem.Obama continued to campaign.What do you want in a president, a person that will do the job regardless of how it effects him personally, or someone who puts his personal goals ahead of the country? We both were elected to the senate to make these decisions. Obama's action: Let other's do the work.I'm John McCain, and I approve of this message.If congress doesn't 'fix it'....see above Link to post Share on other sites
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