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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:12 AM

View Postcolonel Feathers, on 04 April 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

I could be wrong, but dont mistake our curiosity with a desire to read an in depth accounting of your weekends.And amscray is right.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:08 AM

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you are wrong
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:09 PM

View Postcolonel Feathers, on 04 April 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:

Evidently.

I won't do to many long ones. If I did, would you rather read crazy sex stories or actual in depth relationship analysis?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:51 AM

Our specialty is generally awkward sex stories. Preferably ones where stupidity ends up in there being no sex at all.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:45 AM

View Postmrdannyg, on 05 April 2013 - 04:51 AM, said:

Our specialty is generally awkward sex stories. Preferably ones where stupidity ends up in there being no sex at all.

Wrong thread.

I'm just interested in stories that are unique to this particular arrangement. I don't care about regular sex or relationship stories.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 08:59 AM

So, just finished planning out an end of April staycation. It's sort of anniversary number two, in that we had first date night, night after that was good old first time ****in night, then a month later, at the end of April, there was a house party where we had not seen each other for a month, and we all realized after 6 hours of going at it where we locked the doors and the rest of the party was not allowed in, well, we realized shit was different. So, were gonna have some in town fun. Night one at Talking Stick resort, night two at The Clarendon downtown (Tickets to Christopher Titus at Stand Up Live) and night three at The Arizona Grand in Tempe. The twist is every night we only have one room. We haven't done same room in a long, long time, I am interested to see how it goes. Anything goes, but what will actually happen?

My best guess is that it will be alot like what happens at home. When it's the four of us we always go with the opposites. That's a two fold thing: one, we all sleep better with the opposites. It took months for us to be able to admit. Two, I see my actual wife about once a week, the same for the other two, and that's enough. Everything else is geared towards drinking the new milkshake, and drinking it up good, and I know for my actual wife she looks at hubby dos the same way. So, it's possible that even though it's same room there won't even be trading on any level. I would say probable.

That being said, I do think a nice healthy foursome session is a good idea, it's just risky in terms of how the girls bodies react every time, it messes stuff up. They both have a hard time handling multiple bodily fluids running about up in the who-area so we have to be extremely careful else we jack up the night.

I am also curious how much poker I will play night one. Definitely planning on playing the afternoon tourney that the casino poker room offers, but past that I don't know. I keep a lid on how much I really am turned on by the game because wife number two is not a fan if gambling of any sort (the money hawk thing) but maybe she's ready to give me the room to put in a nice higher limit cash game session.

We will see!

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 11:34 AM

I think this is an interesting topic, not the quad sex life and wife bitching story which for now I will take as a joke account, but nonetheless interesting. I support marriage for any two people. I am not opposed to people living in what ever living or financial arrangement they see fit. I think of marriage as simply the term used to describe the type of contract, like we might use to define others, real estate, taxes, or whatever. There is obviously no good reason to not allow any 2 people to enter into said contract for many reasons, financial, kids, estate, etc.. And also, I believe there is some benefit for children in having two parents and have no problem with government allowing soft paternalism in encouraging those relationships. I have never seen any studies or evidence that groups accomplish child rearing better. I am also not in any way condemning single parents, I was one.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostRoll the Bones, on 11 April 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

I think this is an interesting topic, not the quad sex life and wife bitching story which for now I will take as a joke account, but nonetheless interesting. I support marriage for any two people. I am not opposed to people living in what ever living or financial arrangement they see fit. I think of marriage as simply the term used to describe the type of contract, like we might use to define others, real estate, taxes, or whatever. There is obviously no good reason to not allow any 2 people to enter into said contract for many reasons, financial, kids, estate, etc.. And also, I believe there is some benefit for children in having two parents and have no problem with government allowing soft paternalism in encouraging those relationships. I have never seen any studies or evidence that groups accomplish child rearing better. I am also not in any way condemning single parents, I was one.
I think most people against gay marriage would be ok with some sort of govt sanctioned liason guaranteeing same rights as married couples.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:43 PM

View PostRoll the Bones, on 11 April 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

I think this is an interesting topic, not the quad sex life and wife bitching story which for now I will take as a joke account, but nonetheless interesting. I support marriage for any two people. I am not opposed to people living in what ever living or financial arrangement they see fit. I think of marriage as simply the term used to describe the type of contract, like we might use to define others, real estate, taxes, or whatever. There is obviously no good reason to not allow any 2 people to enter into said contract for many reasons, financial, kids, estate, etc.. And also, I believe there is some benefit for children in having two parents and have no problem with government allowing soft paternalism in encouraging those relationships. I have never seen any studies or evidence that groups accomplish child rearing better. I am also not in any way condemning single parents, I was one.

Hmmmmm......I do feel the need on some level to prove that it's not a joke, at the same time while we are out, we are careful, in that careers could be hurt. That's a struggle for us. Friends all know, most family, but past that were pretty careful. Tell you what, lets take a pics or it didnt happen approach. I will post pics with faces scrubbed, and at some point when I feel comfortable and feel it's controllable I will link Facebook. There is also a blog in the works as well, just working in having enough content because it may be monetized in some way.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:08 PM

douche or no douche: guy who says "staycation?"

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 10:31 PM

View PostEssay21, on 11 April 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

douche or no douche: guy who says "staycation?"


If I may, not douchey. Maybe a tad gay, like "I'll suck a small dick but not a big one" gay, but not douchey.

To be sure, I am douchey. Just not for that reason.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 10:34 PM

View Postcolonel Feathers, on 11 April 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

I think most people against gay marriage would be ok with some sort of govt sanctioned liason guaranteeing same rights as married couples.

Most are. It's the calling it marriage that irks naysayers. When we get "married" in July, were not calling it a marriage, were calling it a commitment ceremony.

I will post pics.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 07:34 AM

View PostEssay21, on 11 April 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

douche or no douche: guy who says "staycation?"

Douche.


View PostCraigKrill, on 11 April 2013 - 10:34 PM, said:

I will post pics.

Ok, but if the wives aren't attractive, you're going to lose some of your audience.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:00 AM

View PostCraigKrill, on 11 April 2013 - 10:34 PM, said:

Most are. It's the calling it marriage that irks naysayers. When we get "married" in July, were not calling it a marriage, were calling it a commitment ceremony.

I will post pics.
Wat exactly do you mean. Are the four of you going to committ yourself to any and all of the other participant?
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Posted 12 April 2013 - 06:58 PM

View Postcolonel Feathers, on 12 April 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Wat exactly do you mean. Are the four of you going to committ yourself to any and all of the other participant?

In a word, yes, and that's a good question. For me it means a commitment to cherishing wife number two as much as wife number one, there is a level of commitment to second hubby as well, to be a good friend and good man and to honor that trust he gives me with his number one and in a way, his life. Does it mean we will all never swing again? No. We could. We've talked about it. That would be something we would do if it was agreed on, and that's a funny subject. Me and number two are done, but in speaking about it the other two are more open about that idea, and so what two and I have said is basically, if you two want go right ahead with your bad self, for us if we have extra time it's together time.

I think utmost is just, this is family, that I chose. Love them and love them as much as I can. That's my commitment.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:20 AM

View PostCraigKrill, on 11 April 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Hmmmmm......I do feel the need on some level to prove that it's not a joke, at the same time while we are out, we are careful, in that careers could be hurt. That's a struggle for us. Friends all know, most family, but past that were pretty careful. Tell you what, lets take a pics or it didnt happen approach. I will post pics with faces scrubbed, and at some point when I feel comfortable and feel it's controllable I will link Facebook. There is also a blog in the works as well, just working in having enough content because it may be monetized in some way.

No need. It's an anonymous message board. You would be proving it to people that aren't real. I love the stories, want them to continue as they seem real, and support you living anyway you see fit. My only point was that I wouldn't condone giving it legal "marriage" protection, mostly because of the legal ramifications and the possibility of for people using the conract fraudulently. You can draw up whatever contract you like though for certain protections.

View Postcolonel Feathers, on 11 April 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

I think most people against gay marriage would be ok with some sort of govt sanctioned liason guaranteeing same rights as married couples.

I dont' think so. I think most against gay marriage think being gay is "wrong" in some way. And even if they would agree to some "civil union" protections, we all know it isn't the same as having the full rights that marriage allows. Denying gays to marriage is really unethical, and their is no ethical reason to be against it.

View PostCraigKrill, on 11 April 2013 - 10:34 PM, said:

Most are. It's the calling it marriage that irks naysayers. When we get "married" in July, were not calling it a marriage, were calling it a commitment ceremony.

I will post pics.

I was going to ask about the commitment to the other guy, but you answered that in another post. You technically aren't marrying him as much as becoming a bros that share...scratch that, really good friends.

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Ok, but if the wives aren't attractive, you're going to lose some of your audience.

Tru dat. But I still want the stories, just less the sex.




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In a word, yes, and that's a good question. For me it means a commitment to cherishing wife number two as much as wife number one, there is a level of commitment to second hubby as well, to be a good friend and good man and to honor that trust he gives me with his number one and in a way, his life. Does it mean we will all never swing again? No. We could. We've talked about it. That would be something we would do if it was agreed on, and that's a funny subject. Me and number two are done, but in speaking about it the other two are more open about that idea, and so what two and I have said is basically, if you two want go right ahead with your bad self, for us if we have extra time it's together time.

I think utmost is just, this is family, that I chose. Love them and love them as much as I can. That's my commitment.

Culture is evolving and as tough as marriages are to keep together, I can't fathom trying to keep this group going long term. How would you term the decision making process, a liberal democracy or totalitarian, or communist etc?? I simply mean is it a majority rules kinda thing? My wife rules my house but she can't make up her mind on paint colors, so I can't imagine trying to figure out how to keep 2 women pleased with my actions.
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 04:02 AM

View Postcolonel Feathers, on 11 April 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

I think most people against gay marriage would be ok with some sort of govt sanctioned liason guaranteeing same rights as married couples.

You're wrong - that's just their effort to find a compromise that still insults people wanting equal rights. If you're ok with gay marriage, just under a different name, you're almost certainly a moron. It's just a name.

Then again, separate but equal has always been a pretty strong ethical stance, amirite?
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:38 AM

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No need. It's an anonymous message board. You would be proving it to people that aren't real. I love the stories, want them to continue as they seem real, and support you living anyway you see fit. My only point was that I wouldn't condone giving it legal "marriage" protection, mostly because of the legal ramifications and the possibility of for people using the conract fraudulently. You can draw up whatever contract you like though for certain protections.



I dont' think so. I think most against gay marriage think being gay is "wrong" in some way. And even if they would agree to some "civil union" protections, we all know it isn't the same as having the full rights that marriage allows. Denying gays to marriage is really unethical, and their is no ethical reason to be against it.



I was going to ask about the commitment to the other guy, but you answered that in another post. You technically aren't marrying him as much as becoming a bros that share...scratch that, really good friends.



Tru dat. But I still want the stories, just less the sex.






Culture is evolving and as tough as marriages are to keep together, I can't fathom trying to keep this group going long term. How would you term the decision making process, a liberal democracy or totalitarian, or communist etc?? I simply mean is it a majority rules kinda thing? My wife rules my house but she can't make up her mind on paint colors, so I can't imagine trying to figure out how to keep 2 women pleased with my actions.

Lets just say that the decision making process is an ever evolving work in progress. We try really hard to do a majority rules type thing but depending on the person, that can't always work, for now. For example, I'm not all that versed in not getting my way, so if I am hell bent on something you kind of have to let me loose, number two is that way as well, but were working on it. The other two are much more laid back. An example of working together, though, would be yesterday when we walked through the whole house room by room and decided what we wanted to do in each room to improve and upgrade, it was easy, mostly majority rules, but the tanning bed were buying, only two and I give a shit about that, the others don't tan like her and I do, but it's what we want, so they just went along.

Most of the time, it's an endless exercise in doing your best to be workable, and truthfully I think that will be key to making this long term. But that's true of any marriage.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 10:20 AM

View PostCraigKrill, on 15 April 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

Lets just say that the decision making process is an ever evolving work in progress. We try really hard to do a majority rules type thing but depending on the person, that can't always work, for now. For example, I'm not all that versed in not getting my way, so if I am hell bent on something you kind of have to let me loose, number two is that way as well, but were working on it. The other two are much more laid back. An example of working together, though, would be yesterday when we walked through the whole house room by room and decided what we wanted to do in each room to improve and upgrade, it was easy, mostly majority rules, but the tanning bed were buying, only two and I give a shit about that, the others don't tan like her and I do, but it's what we want, so they just went along.

Most of the time, it's an endless exercise in doing your best to be workable, and truthfully I think that will be key to making this long term. But that's true of any marriage.

In mine I just do what my wife tells me and it seems to work out fine. It takes a ton of effort to keep her happy and she's really low maintenance, so I can't imagine your situation. Good luck though.
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 03:26 PM

View Postmrdannyg, on 15 April 2013 - 04:02 AM, said:

You're wrong - that's just their effort to find a compromise that still insults people wanting equal rights. If you're ok with gay marriage, just under a different name, you're almost certainly a moron. It's just a name.

Then again, separate but equal has always been a pretty strong ethical stance, amirite?
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