TrueAce13, on Wednesday, February 9th, 2011, 11:56 PM, said:
THIS ^^^
any2canlose, on Wednesday, February 9th, 2011, 11:31 PM, said:
QJ off oop is only going to get you in trouble. Its a clear fold.There is way too little respect for position in the posts Ive seen.
Ever played a Neg-O before?? Ever played kobe or highwaystar in a Neg-O before?? TA13 finished dead last tonight, and if you go back and look at previous Neg-Os, he does not fare too well. (Sorry bro, just an example
) SharkScope him and see if based on his Neg-O play/results he is just really f'n lucky in everything else, or does he screw around in a Neg-O just to have fun? (ehhh, don't answer that
) The game is super loose and good players can beat up on others just by playing position/bet sizing just as you said above. That's what makes a NEG-O fun, because some players like me play it seriously, and others (mostly the good players here) do just goofey, crazy shit just because. But, that is what makes these fun to play.You have read my posts here and know that I am still a learning player. Someone like kobe has seen them too, and I guarantee you if I played him HU in a tourney, he could pull an Annette and play it blind and still have an edge on me based on knowing position/bet sizing better than I do, because he has way more experience/knowledge than I do. I now that QJ off is a fold UTG in most cases, but here, change the As to something like a 5c or something really dry, and I would almost bet you he still plays the hand similar. I tried to step up to the plate and play on another level, but failed miserably. :(Just for fun, $10 says he had air here. $5 says he has Ax, and another $5 says he had no spade. Only taking 1 action per play, so my total win/lose will not exceed $20. Any takers? Action closed 24 hours from this post, and afterward he can post what he had.
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This converter is going to be a cash cow...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($5.00+$0.50) t15/t30 - 6 playersBB ThePayne04: t1,806 UTG Hero: t3,250 UTG+1 DiamondDixi: t3,100 CO Sir_Poker86: t3,238 Button kobe2odom8: t3,738 SB superjeff13: t2,798 Preflop: (t45) Hero is UTG with 
(6 players)Hero raises to t90, 2 folds, kobe2odom8 raises to t210, 2 folds, Hero calls t120Flop: (t465) 
(2 players)Hero checks, kobe2odom8 bets t125, Hero calls t125Turn: (t715) 
(2 players)Hero checks, kobe2odom8 bets t333, Hero calls t333River: (t1,381) 
(2 players)Hero checks, kobe2odom8 bets t870, Hero foldskobe2odom8 collected t1381Alright first off, kobe knows he owns me and I know it too. PF I figured he was trying to work me over. Flop came, and I have mid-pair with. I am in a decent spot, but I was thinking try to see if he would let me draw cheaply. My plan here was make the flush. 2nd nut should be good enough. I thought about raising here to about pot, but then what do I do if he 3-bets me here? He can do that with air, or he could do it with an Ax, or with a made flush of some kind of weird shit. I know the turn and river are garbage cards, and he did not improve. Basically I was trying to draw out to the flush. Yes, I know if a spade hits and I bet or raise, then he knows he is beat, because I play so obvious like that. But, I can at least get what he has already aggressively put into the pot. Same thought process on the flop factored in turn and river. One of my biggest flaws is not having the balls to bet big with air/weaker hands. Still trying to get there. Been playing with stove on this giving him 43% which includes all Ax combos, and making 3 spades dead cards with 5 more randoms, and I still come out with about a 67-33 edge in my favor, so I guess if I was just 1 tabling, I might have had time to punch at least the ranges in and realized I was in a better position than I realized. Basically, I had too much shit going on and was worried about getting bullied. Just a bad night overall, but at least I learned the numbers for this spot again in the future. I'll go back and look at the game chat tomorrow and work on it some more. Right now my brain is mush, and is not the best time to think about this. Thanks for the inputs.
