Alex916F 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 first hand AA good sign i think? Link to post Share on other sites
Alex916F 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 damn got moved to westmenlo's table w/ #1pen and soclever Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Up to 10,800 early in the $650 today. Link to post Share on other sites
Jargonator 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 gl Alex & Zim Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 I'm in a Step 5 right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Tosh 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I'm in a Step 5 right now.glgl watching not enough money to talk though Link to post Share on other sites
Tosh 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I'm in a Step 5 right now.nh double 66 to 55 Link to post Share on other sites
Tosh 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 bink*** HOLE CARDS ***Pwnasaurus: raises 70 to 120alonso88: folds CANON42: folds chgocubsfan: calls 95basebal1b: folds *** FLOP *** [6s 7c 3s]chgocubsfan: checks Pwnasaurus: bets 180chgocubsfan: calls 180*** TURN *** [6s 7c 3s] [Th]chgocubsfan: bets 1640 and is all-inPwnasaurus: calls 965 and is all-in*** RIVER *** [6s 7c 3s Th] [8h]*** SHOW DOWN ***chgocubsfan: shows [Ts 9s] (a straight, Six to Ten)Pwnasaurus: shows [Js Jc] (a pair of Jacks)chgocubsfan collected 2580 from pot Link to post Share on other sites
Bizzle 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Approx rank of sattys:1. 6502. 6503. 6504. 6505. 650...37. 175 DS....893217. 33r.....89321737129646164196462132147271847231423. StepsFMOP Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 FMOPWELL I CAN'T STOP NOW!!!!!!!(Subtle seinfeld reference)In all seriousness, no way these are worse than the 30r. Not if you start at Step 4. At least I don't think so, but you are the sattelite expert (no sw) Link to post Share on other sites
Alex916F 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 grossPokerStars Game #12609028217: Tournament #63266091, $615+$35 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/10/13 - 18:34:39 (ET)Table '63266091 11' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: mr joe smith (3788 in chips) Seat 2: Shmeev (7835 in chips) Seat 3: westmenloAA (5750 in chips) Seat 4: relicall (7190 in chips) Seat 5: groggy (8660 in chips) Seat 6: #1PEN (4931 in chips) Seat 7: Alex916F (8965 in chips) Seat 9: SoClever (2156 in chips) relicall: posts small blind 75groggy: posts big blind 150*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Alex916F [Qc Qs]#1PEN: folds Alex916F: raises 300 to 450SoClever: folds mr joe smith: raises 750 to 1200Shmeev: folds westmenloAA: folds relicall: folds groggy: folds Alex916F: raises 6150 to 7350mr joe smith: calls 2588 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [9c Kd As]*** TURN *** [9c Kd As] [9h]*** RIVER *** [9c Kd As 9h] [4h]*** SHOW DOWN ***Alex916F: shows [Qc Qs] (two pair, Queens and Nines)mr joe smith: shows [Ad Qd] (two pair, Aces and Nines)mr joe smith collected 7801 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 7801 | Rake 0 Board [9c Kd As 9h 4h]Seat 1: mr joe smith showed [Ad Qd] and won (7801) with two pair, Aces and NinesSeat 2: Shmeev folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: westmenloAA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: relicall (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: groggy (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: #1PEN folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: Alex916F showed [Qc Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and NinesSeat 9: SoClever folded before Flop (didn't bet)and gross i am outPokerStars Game #12609285157: Tournament #63266091, $615+$35 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/10/13 - 18:50:52 (ET)Table '63266091 11' 9-max Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: mr joe smith (6476 in chips) Seat 2: Shmeev (9910 in chips) Seat 3: westmenloAA (5675 in chips) Seat 4: relicall (7815 in chips) Seat 5: groggy (11041 in chips) Seat 6: #1PEN (4811 in chips) Seat 7: Alex916F (3052 in chips) Seat 8: itsoverjonny (3385 in chips) is sitting outSeat 9: Shifty1768 (9885 in chips) mr joe smith: posts small blind 100Shmeev: posts big blind 200*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Alex916F [Qs Qh]westmenloAA: folds relicall: calls 200groggy: folds #1PEN: folds Alex916F: raises 600 to 800itsoverjonny: folds Shifty1768: folds mr joe smith: folds Shmeev: folds relicall: raises 3600 to 4400Alex916F: calls 2252 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [2h 8h Ad]*** TURN *** [2h 8h Ad] [8s]*** RIVER *** [2h 8h Ad 8s] [5s]*** SHOW DOWN ***relicall: shows [Kc Ah] (two pair, Aces and Eights)Alex916F: shows [Qs Qh] (two pair, Queens and Eights)Alex916F said, "gg"relicall collected 6404 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 6404 | Rake 0 Board [2h 8h Ad 8s 5s]Seat 1: mr joe smith (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 2: Shmeev (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: westmenloAA folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: relicall showed [Kc Ah] and won (6404) with two pair, Aces and EightsSeat 5: groggy folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: #1PEN folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: Alex916F showed [Qs Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and EightsSeat 8: itsoverjonny folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Shifty1768 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)i need to learn how to win races ... i think i will try to get in through a double shoot out next.... Link to post Share on other sites
pocktdeuces 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 congrats cubs Link to post Share on other sites
Bizzle 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 WELL I CAN'T STOP NOW!!!!!!!(Subtle seinfeld reference)In all seriousness, no way these are worse than the 30r. Not if you start at Step 4. At least I don't think so, but you are the sattelite expert (no sw)Nah, starting at step 4 isn't too bad. The problem with them is that your money gets raked like 32000 times before it gets to the final satty. I posed this example to Grinder the other night-Say you play 20 215 step 4s. You buy in for 4k and pay another 300 in rake.You win 6 of those (3/10, well above neutral of 2/9) for step 5 tickets. You then play the step 5 tickets for 4020 in value and another 180 in rake.You win 2 of those (2/6, well above neutral of 2/9) for step 6 tickets. You now have 4000 in ticket value and another 200 you will pay in rake.So of this, your value went from 4300 bought in to 4k in ticket values, and you paid 680 in rake. And you ran well above neutral.I think it was a 2p2 post a long while ago that discussed what crappy value the step sngs was, but it mighta been here. If I remember right, the value of a low level step ticket was something like 3.44+4.56, or something like that. Link to post Share on other sites
Tosh 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 congrats cubs Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 Sweet, made it through the step 5 when a horrid donk calls a pot sized all in bet with Q 2 on a 9 x x 2 board and his opponent has the 9, and the river is a 2. I'll take it and let you know how the step 6 goes. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 Nah, starting at step 4 isn't too bad. The problem with them is that your money gets raked like 32000 times before it gets to the final satty. I posed this example to Grinder the other night-Say you play 20 215 step 4s. You buy in for 4k and pay another 300 in rake.You win 6 of those (3/10, well above neutral of 2/9) for step 5 tickets. You then play the step 5 tickets for 4020 in value and another 180 in rake.You win 2 of those (2/6, well above neutral of 2/9) for step 6 tickets. You now have 4000 in ticket value and another 200 you will pay in rake.So of this, your value went from 4300 bought in to 4k in ticket values, and you paid 680 in rake. And you ran well above neutral.I think it was a 2p2 post a long while ago that discussed what crappy value the step sngs was, but it mighta been here. If I remember right, the value of a low level step ticket was something like 3.44+4.56, or something like that.1 - OK, but what about the times you don't win, but win a seat to the same step you just played or another one? That will happen a good portion of the 14 times you don't win the first one and the 4 times you don't win the second one. These have to be included in the value somewhere. 2 - And I'd have to sit and think about this more, but I don't see why you are double raking anything. I played in one step 4, luckboxed, one step 5, luckboxed, and now will play in a step 6. And I've payed $15 in rake. I'm pretty sure I'm wrong about this point but I will need it explained to me like a third grader on why. EDIT: I am getting this already the more I think about it. The money I am playing for when I get to the next is not in the prize pool for that step...3 - Also, Step six is a $2100 buy in so that should read $4200, correct? Subtle, but noteworthy. Link to post Share on other sites
Bizzle 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 1 - OK, but what about the times you don't win, but win a seat to the same step you just played or another one? That will happen a good portion of the 14 times you don't win the first one and the 4 times you don't win the second one. These have to be included in the value somewhere. 2 - And I'd have to sit and think about this more, but I don't see why you are double raking anything. I played in one step 4, luckboxed, one step 5, luckboxed, and now will play in a step 6. And I've payed $15 in rake. I'm pretty sure I'm wrong about this point but I will need it explained to me like a third grader on why. 3 - Also, Step six is a $2100 buy in so that should read $4200, correct? Subtle, but noteworthy.1. Yeah, there's obvious value in those. But you are basically losing value every time you win a seat to the same level-If I play a 25+2 satty, win a seat to another 25+2 satty, you've "won" a $27 prize that allows you to pay another $2 in rake. How very nice of them.2. You're thinking of each win as winning a ticket that has a fixed value-ie, you win a 215 satty and you've won a $700 ticket. In all reality, you've won $670 in value and another 30 you get to pay to allow them to let you play a $670 satty. Once you have played the 2100 satty, you will have paid $215 in cash, won 2800 worth of prizes (700+2100), and used those prizes for 2670 in value, plus 130 in rake.3. It's 2000+100. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 1. Yeah, there's obvious value in those. But you are basically losing value every time you win a seat to the same level-If I play a 25+2 satty, win a seat to another 25+2 satty, you've "won" a $27 prize that allows you to pay another $2 in rake. How very nice of them.2. You're thinking of each win as winning a ticket that has a fixed value-ie, you win a 215 satty and you've won a $700 ticket. In all reality, you've won $670 in value and another 30 you get to pay to allow them to let you play a $670 satty. Once you have played the 2100 satty, you will have paid $215 in cash, won 2800 worth of prizes (700+2100), and used those prizes for 2670 in value, plus 130 in rake.3. It's 2000+100.Allright, you win. But whatever, I'm winning the ****ing step 6 and going. And when I get there you will by me a drink for making me look bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Bizzle 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Allright, you win. But whatever, I'm winning the ****ing step 6 and going. And when I get there you will by me a drink for making me look bad.Wait, I get to meet the infamous chgocubs that noone has ever met? This could actually happen? Link to post Share on other sites
Vick12 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Wait, I get to meet the infamous chgocubs that noone has ever met? This could actually happen?Ummm....I have met him.... Link to post Share on other sites
profxavier9 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 when i saw the steps were back i got excited and plunged right into the first 500fpp and have had a smooth ride to step 5 which i havent attempted to play yet. I was going to this mourning and was registered, until i saw roothlus and hevad khan sign up. That's when i swallowed my pride and decided to give it a run another time. Not that those guys really scare me or anything just figure i could find some better players to play against. This is the first live event im really going to give a run at winning a seat. I like the fact that every1 is forced to play and that you cant sell your seats anywhere along the way, its makes for a really soft field. Hopefully ill be back here sometime soon to saying im taking a shot at step 6. GL all. Link to post Share on other sites
Bizzle 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Ummm....I have met him....And have I met you? I refuse to believe that you actually exist until that happens. Link to post Share on other sites
Vick12 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 And have I met you? I refuse to believe that you actually exist until that happens.Looooool touche'!!!I am actually a figment of my own imagination!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I had 22k at one point, raise QQ in MP, Foucault snaps on me for about the 4th time in an hour, I call, he has KK, down to 8k.Then button raises, I shove 11BB and KJo from SB, he snap calls for about 75% of his stack with KTo, T on turn, GG me. Link to post Share on other sites
Marchione 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 dont you know vick12 is CPD ~!~just look at his pic Link to post Share on other sites
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