New Challenge: Movin' On Up

[KingJames 11]

oh my flatting 4bets with the ace and the 9Merge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterBTN: $6.77SB: $10BB: $11.86UTG: $24.68Hero (MP): $10.32CO: $11.41Pre-Flop: A K dealt to Hero (MP)UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO raises to $1.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.40, CO calls $1.30Flop: ($4.95) J 6 A (2 Players)Hero bets $1, CO calls $1Turn: ($6.95) 4 (2 Players)Hero bets $2.75, CO calls $2.75River: ($12.45) 8 (2 Players)Hero raises to $4.17 and is All-In, CO calls $4.17Results: $20.79 Pot ($1.03 Rake)Hero showed A K and WON $19.76 (+$9.44 NET)CO showed A 9 and LOST (-$10.32 NET)

[trystero 0]

I bet a bit more otf and shove the turn

[KingJames 11]

I bet a bit more otf and shove the turn

says the kid who doesn't even play online pokerz:rootbeer:

[Ninja Ace 1]

says the kid who doesn't even play online pokerz:rootbeer:

Is a monotone board in a 4bet pot the place to rootbeer?

[trystero 0]

don't use the :rootbeer: if you don't know how to use it. it's like krablar.

[KingJames 11]

trystero jealous that the kid got max value... don't hate, appreciate

[trystero 0]

even Cobalt will agree that this is a gross misuse of the :rootbeer: and I don't think he's ever agreed with me before.

[CobaltBlue 662]

even Cobalt will agree that this is a gross misuse of the :rootbeer: and I don't think he's ever agreed with me before.

I do prefer betting like $1.25-$1.50 on that flop and shoving the turn, yes.Ninja, I mean, she was pretty short though...like 5'1.

[Ninja Ace 1]

Ninja, I mean, she was pretty short though...like 5'1.

I can hear the pelvis crunch *shudder*Then again, I prefer bigger women, so to each his own

[SuperJon 175]

<--- slowly becoming a nit

[donk4life 34]

I..... don't understand the point of rootbeering that flop

[KingJames 11]

I..... don't understand the point of rootbeering that flop

I thought his range to call my 4b IP would be like JJ, QQ, maybe AK/AQ/KK sometimes?... I guess he can prob easily fold those without a club to a bet, rootbeer or not, so when he has a pair with a club, I guess $2.50 and shoving turn is best... I dunno. I just click buttons

[trystero 0]

The :rootbeer: creator himself took you to task, at the risk of agreeing with me. Just as when Eddie chimes in on a live poker thread, this argument is now Done.

[CobaltBlue 662]

I can hear the pelvis crunch *shudder*

She sometimes complained that I was too big for her.HEY-O.

[CobaltBlue 662]

TARPS!Your converted hand, now with more cowbell.HEM/Bodog NL Hold'em $2.00/$4.00 - 2 playersBB: $357.00 Button: $444.00 (Hero)Preflop: ($6.00) Hero is Button with (2 players)Hero raises to $12.00, BB raises to $20.00, Hero calls $8.00Flop: ($40.00) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($40.00) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($40.00) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksBB showed , BB won $39.00Converting hands till the cows come homeHEM/Bodog NL Hold'em $1.00/$2.00 - 2 playersButton: $266.00 (Hero)BB: $60.50 Preflop: ($3.00) Hero is Button with (2 players)Hero raises to $6.00, BB raises to $12.00, Hero calls $6.00Flop: ($24.00) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($24.00) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($24.00) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksBB showed , BB won $23.00Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Bodog NL Hold'em $2.00/$4.00 - 6 playersUTG: $176.10 UTG+1: $406.00 CO: $189.92 Button: $489.80 (Hero)SB: $390.00 BB: $296.29 Preflop: ($6.00) Hero is Button with (6 players)UTG raises to $12.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $38.00, 2 folds, UTG calls $26.00Flop: ($82.00) (2 players)UTG checks, Hero checksTurn: ($82.00) (2 players)UTG checks, Hero checksRiver: ($82.00) (2 players)UTG checks, Hero checksUTG showed , UTG won $79.00

[XXEddie 0]

wtf is a rootbeer. And lol Cobalt.

[QED 4]

Rootbeer is betting 1/3 of the pot when oop in a 3bet pot either as a bluff, to get the villain to call down light or to induce the spew shove from the villain.

[trystero 0]

<--- slowly becoming a nit

welcome home

[CobaltBlue 662]

Rootbeer is betting 1/3 of the pot when oop in a 3bet pot either as a bluff, to get the villain to call down light or to induce the spew shove from the villain.

Well, that's part of it sometimes.Eddie, Phil Galfond discussed the line originally...

I haven't played a ton of nl lately. Maybe I'll make up a cool hand.Oooooh actually, I'll tell you about a play I like. I didn't name it but I think I'll call it the 'Root Beer'.$10k stacks.Loose semi-aggro decent player opens to $350 from the HJ at 50/100. I make it $1300 from SB with AJss or KK.Flop T54 two spades. ($2700)I give him the root beer and bet $650He usually won't have a hand, but he won't want to fold for $650 into that pot. So he can either return my root beer and make it $2500 (I shove, he folds usually), or he can make a float.Let's say he chooses to float, which he will fairly often.Turn Qo or T or 7o, or whatever.There are two options I like on the turn after I root beer the flop.One is a check shove. That's kind've the logical one, right? We've forced them to float, so we should let them bluff. But sometimes they check behind, and sometimes they have a weak made hand.What I like to do more is bet $1500 into the $4000.What usually happens is that they fold, since they don't have a hand. But a lot of times what happens is they think "hmmmm I can't call this, I have 4 outs/no outs/bottom pair. But why did I float then? To take away this pot. RAISE"They make it $4k and I shove and they fold. Tada!It also works nicely with bluffs because you lay yourself a nice price.

Essentially, the key ingredient is that you've 3bet or 4bet and your opponent has called in position. From there, you bet something in the range of 1/5 to 1/3 pot (I tend to go with a little more than 1/4th). Sometimes they fold. Usually they float. Sometimes they raise. Your hand/texture and what you think of the raise would determine what you do with it. When they float, you have a pretty wide variety of options on the turn...check (to call or shove), bet small again, or bet larger. If you bet small again, you again have similar options on the river. If they've just called two small bets on the flop and turn, they're pretty unlikely to have a bit hand on the river.

[KingJames 11]

poker is easy when you make full houses and your villains make tripsMerge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterUTG: $11.62Hero (BTN): $10.45SB: $10.64BB: $16.94Pre-Flop: 5 5 dealt to Hero (BTN)UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB calls $0.10Flop: ($0.45) 5 T T (2 Players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.45, BB raises to $1.46, Hero raises to $3.25, BB raises to $16.74 and is All-In, Hero calls $7 and is All-InTurn: ($20.95) 4 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)River: ($20.95) 9 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)Results: $20.95 Pot ($1.04 Rake)Hero showed 5 5 and WON $19.91 (+$9.46 NET)BB showed T J and LOST (-$10.35 NET)

[KingJames 11]

Merge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterBTN: $10.92SB: $5.90BB: $10UTG: $10MP: $24.27Hero (CO): $12.72Pre-Flop: 6 6 dealt to Hero (CO)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20Flop: ($0.65) 6 T Q (2 Players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.65, BB calls $0.65Turn: ($1.95) 2 (2 Players)BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75River: ($5.45) Q (2 Players)BB bets $3.63, Hero raises to $10.02 and is All-In, BB calls $3.67 and is All-InResults: $20.05 Pot ($1 Rake)BB showed A Q and LOST (-$9.90 NET)Hero showed 6 6 and WON $19.05 (+$9.05 NET)

[KingJames 11]

Villain is 26/21/5AF over 217 hands; he's got a 56% steal and 86% fold to 3bet, is this a hand we should 3b from the blinds to strengthen our range or is it a meh spot bc it sucks to 3b/fold as he has yet to 4b a hand?worst river card really; can we profitably call or is this just a c.f bc eff it most of his bluff range just got there?Merge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterBTN: $12.19Hero (SB): $10.15BB: $2.28UTG: $10.82Pre-Flop: 9 9 dealt to Hero (SB)UTG raises to $0.35, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.30, BB foldsFlop: ($0.80) 5 3 5 (2 Players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40Turn: ($1.60) 7 (2 Players)Hero checks, UTG bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20River: ($4) A (2 Players)Hero checks, UTG bets $2,And this is how we spew it:Merge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterCO: $12.48BTN: $9.65SB: $10.95Hero (BB): $10UTG: $15.07MP: $10.09Pre-Flop: A K dealt to Hero (BB)UTG folds, MP raises to $0.28, CO folds, BTN calls $0.28, SB calls $0.23, Hero raises to $1.45, MP folds, BTN calls $1.17, SB calls $1.17Flop: ($4.63) 5 Q 9 (3 Players)SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $3.47, SB folds, Hero raises to $8.55 and is All-In, BTN calls $4.73 and is All-InTurn: ($21.03) J (2 Players - 1 is All-In)River: ($21.03) 5 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)Results: $21.03 Pot ($1.05 Rake)BTN showed 5 A and WON $19.98 (+$10.33 NET)Hero showed A K and LOST (-$9.55 NET)

[trystero 0]

BTN owned your ass

[droberts 3]

I thought his range to call my 4b IP would be like JJ, QQ, maybe AK/AQ/KK sometimes?

lol u do realize ur playing 10nl right?

[SuperJon 175]

welcome home

well my results are so much better this month, and you know i don't argue with results