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FTP has decided to combine all my run bad this month into one day. At least I'm hoping that's their plan. Otherwise they can suck a fat one.

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This deserves to get seen by a few more people. From our resident Stupidhead...v1.27Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $1.00/$2.00 - 6 playersButton: $237.98SB: $200.00BB: $60.00

I remember when this thread was all about how bad KJ was at 3betting

He's probably not flatting KJ's raise otf if he had a2. Besides, A2 is such a small portion of his range here, we are never ever ever ever ever ever ever folding the turn. People are stupid, they do

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I hated this turn card in game, turns out I loved it!!!feral_cow_icon.gifDont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO Turbus: $12.38 Button ducks101: $24.50 SB JRGN0180: $25.36 BB sweetness518: $18.15 UTG Hero: $20.00 UTG+1 Omme1984: $17.15 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Ks.gifAc.gif (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, Omme1984 folds, Turbus calls $0.75, ducks101 folds, JRGN0180 calls $0.65, sweetness518 foldsFlop: ($2.50) Js.gifKc.gif6d.gif (3 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero bets $1.60, Turbus folds, JRGN0180 calls $1.60Turn: ($5.70) Jc.gif (2 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero checksRiver: ($5.70) 8h.gif (2 players)JRGN0180 bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25JRGN0180 showed Kh.gifKd.gif, and won ($13.49) with a full house, Kings full of JacksHero mucked Ks.gifAc.gifJRGN0180 won $13.49(Rake: $0.71)

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I hated this turn card in game, turns out I loved it!!!feral_cow_icon.gifDont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO Turbus: $12.38 Button ducks101: $24.50 SB JRGN0180: $25.36 BB sweetness518: $18.15 UTG Hero: $20.00 UTG+1 Omme1984: $17.15 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Ks.gifAc.gif (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, Omme1984 folds, Turbus calls $0.75, ducks101 folds, JRGN0180 calls $0.65, sweetness518 foldsFlop: ($2.50) Js.gifKc.gif6d.gif (3 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero bets $1.60, Turbus folds, JRGN0180 calls $1.60Turn: ($5.70) Jc.gif (2 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero checksRiver: ($5.70) 8h.gif (2 players)JRGN0180 bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25JRGN0180 showed Kh.gifKd.gif, and won ($13.49) with a full house, Kings full of JacksHero mucked Ks.gifAc.gifJRGN0180 won $13.49(Rake: $0.71)
I find myself calling in these spots all the time, but I'm beginning to wonder if it's a leak.I mean, on the river, all we can beat is a bluff and KQ. I don't think he has many bluffs other than QT, and he might not even value bet a hand like KQ. But he does have all the combos of JT+, and possibly 66.Him having KK is more of an anomaly, and I would be more worried that his overall value range far outweighs his bluff range on the river.
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but then how would we know if they haz it??excellent points, tho for realThis villain was 44/4 over 50 hands with a 2.9AF so I think my call is alright in this spot but I plan to keep an eye on this spot vs some tighter ranges and maybe make some folds when I think I'm bluff catching and they don't have many bluffs

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This one was kind of interesting as well; villain is TAG, 19/13/100% fold to 3b over 230 hands.sb short stacker had been 3bet slamming his stack a bit, so I chose to flat pre.Nits ittferal_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1 Eno4: $24.65 CO Hero: $20.25 Button biggysmalls316: $24.65 SB GlendoraSam: $8.75 BB jetblacktib: $35.75 UTG Ekimo11: $18.17 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with Qh.gifQs.gif (6 players)Ekimo11 folds, Eno4 raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 3 foldsFlop: ($2.05) 4h.gif4s.gif5c.gif (2 players)Eno4 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50Turn: ($5.05) Th.gif (2 players)Eno4 bets $3, Hero calls $3River: ($11.05) 5s.gif (2 players)Eno4 checks, Hero bets $7, Eno4 calls $7Eno4 showed Ks.gifKc.gif, and won ($23.80) with two pair, Kings and FivesHero showed Qh.gifQs.gif, and lost with two pair, Queens and FivesEno4 won $23.80(Rake: $1.25)I almost over bet jammed...

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Just reviewing some earlier sessions, and I found this hand. I more I think about it, the more I really hate my check on the river. Obviously, I was planning on check/calling, but now I think that even though it's thin, there's still more value to be had by betting.feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG: $16.69 UTG+1: $5.26 CO: $29.06 Button: $60.08 SB: $53.00 (Hero)BB: $28.22 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with :4h:club: (6 players)2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Button calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, Button calls $2.25Flop: ($7.00) :ts:jh:3h (2 players)Hero checks, Button checksTurn: ($7.00) :qh (2 players)Hero bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50River: ($14.00) :5c (2 players)Hero checks, Button checks

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thoughts on the flop check?I mean, it's a pretty drawy heavy board, no?
Pot control.Not sure if this is a leak, but I don't think it's necessary to try and build a huge pot 200bbs deep OOP with one pair, even if it is AA. I just figured all the likely hands that could raise me either have me crushed or are doing okay equity wise against me.I don't think betting is terrible though.
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Yeah, I didn't notice the stack sizes when I asked. It's typically an auto c-bet for me, but deep oop I like pot controlling. Sucks if we're vs someone good who can put us in a tough spot by barreling, but if we suspect that is the case, we just click call 3times... I mean, we haz AA

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Yeah, I didn't notice the stack sizes when I asked. It's typically an auto c-bet for me, but deep oop I like pot controlling. Sucks if we're vs someone good who can put us in a tough spot by barreling, but if we suspect that is the case, we just click call 3times... I mean, we haz AA
That was my plan unless the board ran out really bad.
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call preflop and defend squeeze with KJo... wow. I can't expertly hand read when they play so bad ;)Also, what kind of note do you make after a hand like this? Mine would look like:4/5/11 25nl 6max:KJo call btn vs co, defend squeezecheck back QJ7tt, call turn 1/2 psb, check back riverLike I typically hate the way I take notes bc it is long and not that informativePerhaps it should be like:KJo, call squeeze IPpot control/showdown vs missed cbet, turn stab???

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call preflop and defend squeeze with KJo... wow. I can't expertly hand read when they play so bad ;)Also, what kind of note do you make after a hand like this? Mine would look like:4/5/11 25nl 6max:KJo call btn vs co, defend squeezecheck back QJ7tt, call turn 1/2 psb, check back riverLike I typically hate the way I take notes bc it is long and not that informativePerhaps it should be like:KJo, call squeeze IPpot control/showdown vs missed cbet, turn stab???
this is exactly what i would writedefends a raise and cold 3bet with KJo, checks back QJ7, calls 3 turn and checks back Q river
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I think you can check flop there 100 deep with the intention of c/jamming. It can actually be quite a good way to balance if you're c/f a lot of wet boards you brick and c/jamming draws/backdoor draws/overcards there

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I hated this turn card in game, turns out I loved it!!!feral_cow_icon.gifDont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO Turbus: $12.38 Button ducks101: $24.50 SB JRGN0180: $25.36 BB sweetness518: $18.15 UTG Hero: $20.00 UTG+1 Omme1984: $17.15 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Ks.gifAc.gif (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, Omme1984 folds, Turbus calls $0.75, ducks101 folds, JRGN0180 calls $0.65, sweetness518 foldsFlop: ($2.50) Js.gifKc.gif6d.gif (3 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero bets $1.60, Turbus folds, JRGN0180 calls $1.60Turn: ($5.70) Jc.gif (2 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero checksRiver: ($5.70) 8h.gif (2 players)JRGN0180 bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25JRGN0180 showed Kh.gifKd.gif, and won ($13.49) with a full house, Kings full of JacksHero mucked Ks.gifAc.gifJRGN0180 won $13.49(Rake: $0.71)
but then how would we know if they haz it??excellent points, tho for realThis villain was 44/4 over 50 hands with a 2.9AF so I think my call is alright in this spot but I plan to keep an eye on this spot vs some tighter ranges and maybe make some folds when I think I'm bluff catching and they don't have many bluffs
If the villain is 44/4 I like bet/folding the turn. He's loose enough that we can get value from Kx. As played the river is an easy call imo.
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James...my note would say this...3xOR/c KJo CO vs BSC/SBRR-ch flop MP2K HU IP, call turn, ch rivAlso, Jon...that's the beauty of root beer. It allows you to put a bet in there on the flop (and possibly turn) while still essentially pot-controlling. I'd probably bet around $1.50-$2 there with the aces with plans to call down if raised.

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James...my note would say this...3xOR/c KJo CO vs BSC/SBRR-ch flop MP2K HU IP, call turn, ch riv
straight jibberish, cobalttake that note back to the linguaphile thread
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Just got crushed by a chemistry examThoughts on what to do here? Opener is 17/11 100% fold to 3b over small sample. The btn and sb are huge droolers, so I chose to flat pre... do we stick it in with ~50% equity vs his over pairs? bb is 28/18 type, his donk could be a worse draw or a set/straight... I dunno what to do here!feral_cow_icon.gifThis converter is going to be a cash cow...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB vladosN: $25.00 UTG gemini-rc89: $17.25 UTG+1 5iLD4: $25.00 CO Hero: $20.00 Button joerudy69: $13.19 SB Huanderson: $8.94 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with Ah.gifKh.gif (6 players)gemini-rc89 folds, 5iLD4 raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds, vladosN calls $0.60Flop: ($2.65) 8c.gif7h.gif5h.gif (3 players)vladosN bets $1.50, 5iLD4 raises to $4.50,

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Just got crushed by a chemistry examThoughts on what to do here? Opener is 17/11 100% fold to 3b over small sample. The btn and sb are huge droolers, so I chose to flat pre... do we stick it in with ~50% equity vs his over pairs? bb is 28/18 type, his donk could be a worse draw or a set/straight... I dunno what to do here!feral_cow_icon.gifThis converter is going to be a cash cow...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB vladosN: $25.00 UTG gemini-rc89: $17.25 UTG+1 5iLD4: $25.00 CO Hero: $20.00 Button joerudy69: $13.19 SB Huanderson: $8.94 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with Ah.gifKh.gif (6 players)gemini-rc89 folds, 5iLD4 raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds, vladosN calls $0.60Flop: ($2.65) 8c.gif7h.gif5h.gif (3 players)vladosN bets $1.50, 5iLD4 raises to $4.50,
Yeah I'd have trouble not getting it in here. GL.
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I will start off with the good end of a cooler. UL for him. He has the toppest pair with a decent kicker. He has A4 and A3 super crushed, plus I'm obv just stealing. The button actually tanked for a while before folding. feral_cow_icon.gifMoooooooooooraaawwwr.HEM/Full Tilt NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 9 playersCO Zylon: $29.53 Button Aurum23: $14.92 SB Hero: $15.08 BB xxaceshigh: $7.19 UTG zeroed83: $2.63 UTG+1 jmejkbjkb: $17.90 MP TrabantPL: $9.60 MP2 Artyom Sobolev: $10.16 HJ buddah911: $12.66 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with Kd.gifTc.gif (9 players)5 folds, Zylon raises to $0.20, Aurum23 folds, Hero calls $0.15, xxaceshigh calls $0.10Flop: ($0.60) Jc.gif2c.gifAh.gif (3 players)Hero checks, xxaceshigh checks, Zylon checksTurn: ($0.60) Qs.gif (3 players)Hero checks, xxaceshigh checks, Zylon bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.00, xxaceshigh raises to $6.99, Zylon folds, Hero calls $5.99River: ($14.88) Ks.gif (2 players)Hero won $13.89Converter has been randomly decided not to show results even when I ask for them lately. Villain had A5o.

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feral_cow_icon.gifv1.27Your converted hand, now with more cowbell.HEM/Full Tilt NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 9 playersSB Hero: $10.00 BB Artyom Sobolev: $10.15 UTG nionder: $14.54 UTG+1 Wilhelm27: $16.39 MP massiveco7: $6.00 MP2 bergluur: $11.25 HJ Zinderelle: $4.39 CO raki0686: $4.00 Button Zylon: $21.17 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with :club:: :ts: (9 players)4 folds, Zinderelle calls $0.10, raki0686 raises to $0.30, Zylon folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 2 folds, raki0686 raises to $4.00, Hero calls $2.90Villian is 29/29 through 7 so not really something to go by. This is actually more of a generic question. I feel like I get into these spot a lot of short-stackers with hands like this. Do we ever 3/bet fold to 40bb stacks or less?
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feral_cow_icon.gifv1.27Moooooooooooraaawwwr.HEM/Full Tilt NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 9 playersMP antoniocalado: $4.82 MP2 Hero: $10.00 HJ Borges71: $4.56 CO HTFU1337: $10.07 Button AveHoffmanno666: $5.36 SB XXwi11y: $4.40 BB abgmcb: $10.00 UTG swe67: $3.61 UTG+1 Brokara: $14.51 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with :club:: :5c: (9 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, Borges71 folds, HTFU1337 calls $0.30, 3 foldsFlop: ($0.75) :ts: :qh: :3h: (2 players)Hero bets $0.40, HTFU1337 calls $0.40Turn: ($1.55) :jh: (2 players)Hero bets $0.75, HTFU1337 calls $0.75River: ($3.05) :4h: (2 players)Hero checksI posted a similar hand a few days ago where I checked the turn then lead the river. Is checking the river here decent considering the draw heavy board? If it were like K95®52 I prolly go for 3 streets, but I thought villain would try to bluff with a missed draw more often than call a 3rd barrel with worse. Villian is 16/8 through 106edit- looking back should my turn bet be closer to the $1 mark with the board texture?
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