XXEddie 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 FTP has decided to combine all my run bad this month into one day. At least I'm hoping that's their plan. Otherwise they can suck a fat one. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 I hated this turn card in game, turns out I loved it!!!Dont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO Turbus: $12.38 Button ducks101: $24.50 SB JRGN0180: $25.36 BB sweetness518: $18.15 UTG Hero: $20.00 UTG+1 Omme1984: $17.15 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, Omme1984 folds, Turbus calls $0.75, ducks101 folds, JRGN0180 calls $0.65, sweetness518 foldsFlop: ($2.50) (3 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero bets $1.60, Turbus folds, JRGN0180 calls $1.60Turn: ($5.70) (2 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero checksRiver: ($5.70) (2 players)JRGN0180 bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25JRGN0180 showed , and won ($13.49) with a full house, Kings full of JacksHero mucked JRGN0180 won $13.49(Rake: $0.71) Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I hated this turn card in game, turns out I loved it!!!Dont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO Turbus: $12.38 Button ducks101: $24.50 SB JRGN0180: $25.36 BB sweetness518: $18.15 UTG Hero: $20.00 UTG+1 Omme1984: $17.15 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, Omme1984 folds, Turbus calls $0.75, ducks101 folds, JRGN0180 calls $0.65, sweetness518 foldsFlop: ($2.50) (3 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero bets $1.60, Turbus folds, JRGN0180 calls $1.60Turn: ($5.70) (2 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero checksRiver: ($5.70) (2 players)JRGN0180 bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25JRGN0180 showed , and won ($13.49) with a full house, Kings full of JacksHero mucked JRGN0180 won $13.49(Rake: $0.71)I find myself calling in these spots all the time, but I'm beginning to wonder if it's a leak.I mean, on the river, all we can beat is a bluff and KQ. I don't think he has many bluffs other than QT, and he might not even value bet a hand like KQ. But he does have all the combos of JT+, and possibly 66.Him having KK is more of an anomaly, and I would be more worried that his overall value range far outweighs his bluff range on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 but then how would we know if they haz it??excellent points, tho for realThis villain was 44/4 over 50 hands with a 2.9AF so I think my call is alright in this spot but I plan to keep an eye on this spot vs some tighter ranges and maybe make some folds when I think I'm bluff catching and they don't have many bluffs Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 This one was kind of interesting as well; villain is TAG, 19/13/100% fold to 3b over 230 hands.sb short stacker had been 3bet slamming his stack a bit, so I chose to flat pre.Nits ittFeral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1 Eno4: $24.65 CO Hero: $20.25 Button biggysmalls316: $24.65 SB GlendoraSam: $8.75 BB jetblacktib: $35.75 UTG Ekimo11: $18.17 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)Ekimo11 folds, Eno4 raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 3 foldsFlop: ($2.05) (2 players)Eno4 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50Turn: ($5.05) (2 players)Eno4 bets $3, Hero calls $3River: ($11.05) (2 players)Eno4 checks, Hero bets $7, Eno4 calls $7Eno4 showed , and won ($23.80) with two pair, Kings and FivesHero showed , and lost with two pair, Queens and FivesEno4 won $23.80(Rake: $1.25)I almost over bet jammed... Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 glad to see i can still do okay without having a huge redline Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Just reviewing some earlier sessions, and I found this hand. I more I think about it, the more I really hate my check on the river. Obviously, I was planning on check/calling, but now I think that even though it's thin, there's still more value to be had by betting.Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG: $16.69 UTG+1: $5.26 CO: $29.06 Button: $60.08 SB: $53.00 (Hero)BB: $28.22 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with (6 players)2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Button calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, Button calls $2.25Flop: ($7.00) (2 players)Hero checks, Button checksTurn: ($7.00) (2 players)Hero bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50River: ($14.00) (2 players)Hero checks, Button checks Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 thoughts on the flop check?I mean, it's a pretty drawy heavy board, no? Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 thoughts on the flop check?I mean, it's a pretty drawy heavy board, no?Pot control.Not sure if this is a leak, but I don't think it's necessary to try and build a huge pot 200bbs deep OOP with one pair, even if it is AA. I just figured all the likely hands that could raise me either have me crushed or are doing okay equity wise against me.I don't think betting is terrible though. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Yeah, I didn't notice the stack sizes when I asked. It's typically an auto c-bet for me, but deep oop I like pot controlling. Sucks if we're vs someone good who can put us in a tough spot by barreling, but if we suspect that is the case, we just click call 3times... I mean, we haz AA Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Yeah, I didn't notice the stack sizes when I asked. It's typically an auto c-bet for me, but deep oop I like pot controlling. Sucks if we're vs someone good who can put us in a tough spot by barreling, but if we suspect that is the case, we just click call 3times... I mean, we haz AAThat was my plan unless the board ran out really bad. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 my expert hand reading says he showed up with 99 Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 my expert hand reading says he showed up with 99KJoA for effort tho Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 call preflop and defend squeeze with KJo... wow. I can't expertly hand read when they play so bad ;)Also, what kind of note do you make after a hand like this? Mine would look like:4/5/11 25nl 6max:KJo call btn vs co, defend squeezecheck back QJ7tt, call turn 1/2 psb, check back riverLike I typically hate the way I take notes bc it is long and not that informativePerhaps it should be like:KJo, call squeeze IPpot control/showdown vs missed cbet, turn stab??? Link to post Share on other sites
droberts 3 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 call preflop and defend squeeze with KJo... wow. I can't expertly hand read when they play so bad ;)Also, what kind of note do you make after a hand like this? Mine would look like:4/5/11 25nl 6max:KJo call btn vs co, defend squeezecheck back QJ7tt, call turn 1/2 psb, check back riverLike I typically hate the way I take notes bc it is long and not that informativePerhaps it should be like:KJo, call squeeze IPpot control/showdown vs missed cbet, turn stab???this is exactly what i would writedefends a raise and cold 3bet with KJo, checks back QJ7, calls 3 turn and checks back Q river Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I think you can check flop there 100 deep with the intention of c/jamming. It can actually be quite a good way to balance if you're c/f a lot of wet boards you brick and c/jamming draws/backdoor draws/overcards there Link to post Share on other sites
kepper 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I hated this turn card in game, turns out I loved it!!!Dont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO Turbus: $12.38 Button ducks101: $24.50 SB JRGN0180: $25.36 BB sweetness518: $18.15 UTG Hero: $20.00 UTG+1 Omme1984: $17.15 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, Omme1984 folds, Turbus calls $0.75, ducks101 folds, JRGN0180 calls $0.65, sweetness518 foldsFlop: ($2.50) (3 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero bets $1.60, Turbus folds, JRGN0180 calls $1.60Turn: ($5.70) (2 players)JRGN0180 checks, Hero checksRiver: ($5.70) (2 players)JRGN0180 bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25JRGN0180 showed , and won ($13.49) with a full house, Kings full of JacksHero mucked JRGN0180 won $13.49(Rake: $0.71) but then how would we know if they haz it??excellent points, tho for realThis villain was 44/4 over 50 hands with a 2.9AF so I think my call is alright in this spot but I plan to keep an eye on this spot vs some tighter ranges and maybe make some folds when I think I'm bluff catching and they don't have many bluffsIf the villain is 44/4 I like bet/folding the turn. He's loose enough that we can get value from Kx. As played the river is an easy call imo. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 James...my note would say this...3xOR/c KJo CO vs BSC/SBRR-ch flop MP2K HU IP, call turn, ch rivAlso, Jon...that's the beauty of root beer. It allows you to put a bet in there on the flop (and possibly turn) while still essentially pot-controlling. I'd probably bet around $1.50-$2 there with the aces with plans to call down if raised. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 James...my note would say this...3xOR/c KJo CO vs BSC/SBRR-ch flop MP2K HU IP, call turn, ch rivstraight jibberish, cobalttake that note back to the linguaphile thread Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Just got crushed by a chemistry examThoughts on what to do here? Opener is 17/11 100% fold to 3b over small sample. The btn and sb are huge droolers, so I chose to flat pre... do we stick it in with ~50% equity vs his over pairs? bb is 28/18 type, his donk could be a worse draw or a set/straight... I dunno what to do here!This converter is going to be a cash cow...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB vladosN: $25.00 UTG gemini-rc89: $17.25 UTG+1 5iLD4: $25.00 CO Hero: $20.00 Button joerudy69: $13.19 SB Huanderson: $8.94 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)gemini-rc89 folds, 5iLD4 raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds, vladosN calls $0.60Flop: ($2.65) (3 players)vladosN bets $1.50, 5iLD4 raises to $4.50, Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Just got crushed by a chemistry examThoughts on what to do here? Opener is 17/11 100% fold to 3b over small sample. The btn and sb are huge droolers, so I chose to flat pre... do we stick it in with ~50% equity vs his over pairs? bb is 28/18 type, his donk could be a worse draw or a set/straight... I dunno what to do here!This converter is going to be a cash cow...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB vladosN: $25.00 UTG gemini-rc89: $17.25 UTG+1 5iLD4: $25.00 CO Hero: $20.00 Button joerudy69: $13.19 SB Huanderson: $8.94 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)gemini-rc89 folds, 5iLD4 raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds, vladosN calls $0.60Flop: ($2.65) (3 players)vladosN bets $1.50, 5iLD4 raises to $4.50,Yeah I'd have trouble not getting it in here. GL. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Few hands from my lastest mini-session coming up. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I will start off with the good end of a cooler. UL for him. He has the toppest pair with a decent kicker. He has A4 and A3 super crushed, plus I'm obv just stealing. The button actually tanked for a while before folding. Moooooooooooraaawwwr.HEM/Full Tilt NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 9 playersCO Zylon: $29.53 Button Aurum23: $14.92 SB Hero: $15.08 BB xxaceshigh: $7.19 UTG zeroed83: $2.63 UTG+1 jmejkbjkb: $17.90 MP TrabantPL: $9.60 MP2 Artyom Sobolev: $10.16 HJ buddah911: $12.66 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with (9 players)5 folds, Zylon raises to $0.20, Aurum23 folds, Hero calls $0.15, xxaceshigh calls $0.10Flop: ($0.60) (3 players)Hero checks, xxaceshigh checks, Zylon checksTurn: ($0.60) (3 players)Hero checks, xxaceshigh checks, Zylon bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.00, xxaceshigh raises to $6.99, Zylon folds, Hero calls $5.99River: ($14.88) (2 players)Hero won $13.89Converter has been randomly decided not to show results even when I ask for them lately. Villain had A5o. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 v1.27Your converted hand, now with more cowbell.HEM/Full Tilt NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 9 playersSB Hero: $10.00 BB Artyom Sobolev: $10.15 UTG nionder: $14.54 UTG+1 Wilhelm27: $16.39 MP massiveco7: $6.00 MP2 bergluur: $11.25 HJ Zinderelle: $4.39 CO raki0686: $4.00 Button Zylon: $21.17 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (9 players)4 folds, Zinderelle calls $0.10, raki0686 raises to $0.30, Zylon folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 2 folds, raki0686 raises to $4.00, Hero calls $2.90Villian is 29/29 through 7 so not really something to go by. This is actually more of a generic question. I feel like I get into these spot a lot of short-stackers with hands like this. Do we ever 3/bet fold to 40bb stacks or less? Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 v1.27Moooooooooooraaawwwr.HEM/Full Tilt NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 9 playersMP antoniocalado: $4.82 MP2 Hero: $10.00 HJ Borges71: $4.56 CO HTFU1337: $10.07 Button AveHoffmanno666: $5.36 SB XXwi11y: $4.40 BB abgmcb: $10.00 UTG swe67: $3.61 UTG+1 Brokara: $14.51 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with : : (9 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, Borges71 folds, HTFU1337 calls $0.30, 3 foldsFlop: ($0.75) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $0.40, HTFU1337 calls $0.40Turn: ($1.55) : (2 players)Hero bets $0.75, HTFU1337 calls $0.75River: ($3.05) : (2 players)Hero checksI posted a similar hand a few days ago where I checked the turn then lead the river. Is checking the river here decent considering the draw heavy board? If it were like K95®52 I prolly go for 3 streets, but I thought villain would try to bluff with a missed draw more often than call a 3rd barrel with worse. Villian is 16/8 through 106edit- looking back should my turn bet be closer to the $1 mark with the board texture? Link to post Share on other sites
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