Temporary Nuts 1 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersUTG+1: $78.65 CO: $94.60 Button: $50.50 (Hero)SB: $26.10 BB: $52.75 UTG: $53.40 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with (6 players)2 folds, CO raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $6, SB folds, BB calls $5.50, CO raises to $24.25, Hero folds, BB calls $18.25Flop: ($54.75) (2 players)BB checks, CO bets $19, BB raises to $28.50, and is all in, CO calls $9.50Turn: ($111.75) (2 players)River: ($111.75) (2 players)CO showed , and won ($108.75) with a full house, Eights full of AcesBB showed , and lost with a full house, Eights full of KingsCO won $108.75(Rake: $3)I'm such a n00b I woulda floppeded the sailbaot Link to post Share on other sites
kreppsen 0 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 You don't fold queens on flop to a raise like this , you just don't. Viva, if you've folded queens here that's a leak I'd try to fix asap.That's a totally different hand and we're not even heads up. Here we're getting a raise 1,5 times our own, close to a min raise. In TNs hand we raise, get a call and then someone 4-bet us 5 times our raise.Nice fold though. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 ok so i posted in the other thread first, then saw this one..If i was in this situation. looking at the opening raise from MP1 and leaving himself 7 dollars is kinda what shapes this hand.MP2 should realize that MP1 isnt going to just call the raise. but rather move all in.so MP2 is obv preped for that.Now. MP1 re-raise for 3.50 more all in is at least 50% of the inital raise and therefore re-opens the betting to MP2.so you could look at a cold call of 5 dollars as a safe way to fold queens if MP2 comes over the top once more.but you'll be kicking yourself when they both turn over AK/AKand since i usually win every hand i play i'd rather play this one..my advice is to re-pop to 18 preflop. have MP1 call off all in with AK.. MP2 folds his AK.. and you win mobneysand anyone who is about to reply with "wouldnt you want MP2 to cbet?" No.. i dont. because he wont. if it goes to the flop and he misses. he isnt Cbeting. unless he is a moron. but you havent specified that.infact. he is more liable to re-pop preflop with AK if u flat call, and MP1 shoves. which would most likely force u off your hand Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersUTG+1: $78.65 CO: $94.60 Button: $50.50 (Hero)SB: $26.10 BB: $52.75 UTG: $53.40 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with (6 players)2 folds, CO raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $6, SB folds, BB calls $5.50, CO raises to $24.25, Hero folds, BB calls $18.25Flop: ($54.75) (2 players)BB checks, CO bets $19, BB raises to $28.50, and is all in, CO calls $9.50Turn: ($111.75) (2 players)River: ($111.75) (2 players)CO showed , and won ($108.75) with a full house, Eights full of AcesBB showed , and lost with a full house, Eights full of KingsCO won $108.75(Rake: $3)I'm such a n00b I woulda floppeded the sailbaotthis is an example thats fun. but yet so far from our actual issue in this hand.because of your position in this hand, its actually easy. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 this is an example thats fun. but yet so far from our actual issue in this hand.because of your position in this hand, its actually easy.I know it was a supereasy fold and doesn't relate to the actual hand... but somebody said "I DAREZ JOO TO SHOW ME TO FOLD ZE QUEENS WITHOUT TO SEE THE FLOOP" so I did Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Yeah i agree on this, i thought he could have like TT-JJ and AQ/AK trying to isolate the donk shorstack. So i went ahead and 4 bet to 14. Both players foldedi missed this the first time around. pretty LOLz.But yea. this is a fine way to play this hand. Infact, its better than fine. if anyone can tell me why this was the ultimate line, i'll send them nudes.I know it was a supereasy fold and doesn't relate to the actual hand... but somebody said "I DAREZ JOO TO SHOW ME TO FOLD ZE QUEENS WITHOUT TO SEE THE FLOOP" so I didhow many tables are you playing at once when you normally play? Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 how many tables are you playing at once when you normally play?12-16 if TAG8 if LAGall 6-maxif anyone can tell me why this was the ultimate line, i'll send them nudes.I was going to stick to my guns about cold calling anyhow, no need to re-enforce my position Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I was going to stick to my guns about cold calling anyhow, no need to re-enforce my positionquestions.knowing what we know about the actual results.. How do you play the following. Keeping in mind of the "real results"you cold call.MP1 folds.flop comes 10h, 6h,5s.action on you...Q1- are you c/r here because you're hoping to get a Cbet from AK/AQ.. orQ2 - are you leading the flop?next stepQ1 - you check flop. villain bet 11. you do what?Q2 - you lead flop wit a bet of 9 villain flats. Turn is 6c.. you do what? Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I never donk bet, and with Q's on a board like that I'm c-cing. Mostly because only stuff that beats me and the occasional flush draw are calling the c-r, but double barreling seems to happen frequently enough for it to be a profitable line. Link to post Share on other sites
droberts 3 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I know it was a supereasy fold and doesn't relate to the actual hand... but somebody said "I DAREZ JOO TO SHOW ME TO FOLD ZE QUEENS WITHOUT TO SEE THE FLOOP" so I didnobody dared you specifically to show folding queens pre... i was talking to viva obv..folding them in certain situations is ez... especially in yours i believe. Link to post Share on other sites
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