doox 15 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 The best name in this trade by far, though? Busto. Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Limit 0 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Busto...great poker name. The best name in this trade by far, though? Busto.hmmm Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 hmmm Lol - at least the time stamp is the same so I can't be accused of plagiarism. Link to post Share on other sites
coesillian 0 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 HF's report on Tom Pyatt, 17 on their depth chart of the NYR17. (N/A) Tom Pyatt, C Grade: 6.5C Team: AHL Hartford Wolf Pack Acquired: Fourth Round, 107th overall, 2005 NHL Entry Draft Age: 22 Pyatt was left off the Top 20 last fall because he had trouble adjusting to the professional level of play and spent most of the 2007-08 season as a member of the ECHL Charlotte Checkers. However, Pyatt has fought back and has spent the entire season playing for the Wolf Pack. Work ethic is Pyatt's biggest asset. He never gives up -- either on himself or the play. He has the skills to be offensively dangerous and is very responsible in his own end. He is good on face-offs, and through sheer determination has made his way up to a half point per game scoring pace. Realistically not expected to become a second line NHL player, one should not be surprised if he overcomes the odds. He make take longer than some other players to become successful in the NHL, but he is sure that he will make it and when Pyatt sets his mind on hockey, it's not wise to bet against him.and McDonnaugh, ranked 18th on their overall prospect ranking :(18. Ryan McDonagh, D – Montreal Canadiens McDonagh is the Canadiens top prospect. A first-round draft selection in 2007, McDonagh is a big, powerful blueliner who can provide an offensive punch. Expected to be more of a defensive blueliner when he turns pro, McDonagh is an excellent skater, with good positioning and gap control. The St. Paul, Minnesota native has good instincts and is developing more physical play. He recently completed his sophomore season at the University of Wisconsin, and competed in the 2009 U20 WJCs. Expected to become a first pairing blueliner over the next few years, McDonagh is weighing his options as to whether he will return to Wisconsin for his junior year. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 I checked out the HF boards Habs' section... they're already talking about tanking for Taylor Hall. lolSorry coesillian. Link to post Share on other sites
coesillian 0 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 I'm gonna wait until we have more than 2 players signed to our top 6 before I pass judgment on the the teams success next season. Let the signing frenzy begin! this can be dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites
TaxLawyer71 0 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Wow. Gainey never ceases to amaze me with his crappy moves. This is just awful. What's next? Koivu at 4.5 per year?Brian Burke must be the happiest person on earth next to Sather. Thanks to that joke of a trade, no matter what Burke does tommorow, he will get a free pass. Link to post Share on other sites
coesillian 0 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 What makes the trade crappy?The way I see it we traded Higgins + McDonagh for Gomez. Higgins isn't a big loss to us, defensively I loved him, offensively we can easily fill his spot. McDonagh, as I said before, is agreat prospect, but we have so much depth their he was expendable.Gomez might be expensive, but he fills a big hole on our team, a top 2 center. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 wish dale were here to get fired up about the trade. this place is gonna suck without the goofy brigade. Link to post Share on other sites
TaxLawyer71 0 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 If you want to trade your #1 prospect because of your farm's depth, fine, but at least get a fair return. Habs are throwing in Higgins and one of their top prospects for the worst contract in the league. Even though Gomez is a good player, I just can't believe that his value on the market was that high. Sather should have been conceding. Instead, I feel that Gainey was raising the ante and not even getting the big center he has been coveting for years. Sather must be laughing his ass off. He got a good return and now has cap space to spend on a player that is worth it. Maybe I am biased here. I will admit that I am not a fan of Gainey's overall tenure in Mtl so far. Anyhow, I agree with you, this is just the beginning. Let's see the overall product before over analyzing. But it sure doesn't look good. Link to post Share on other sites
Nashtak 0 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 What makes the trade crappy?The way I see it we traded Higgins + McDonagh for Gomez. Higgins isn't a big loss to us, defensively I loved him, offensively we can easily fill his spot. McDonagh, as I said before, is agreat prospect, but we have so much depth their he was expendable.Gomez might be expensive, but he fills a big hole on our team, a top 2 center.This trade was terrible. Such a waste of cap space, which is becoming more and more important by the years. Plus we lost one of our top prospect, McDonagh. Hell, keeping Koivu would have been a MUCH better move, he's almost half the price. With all the free agents out there, we had to get Scott Gomez with a 8 millions contract for over 4 years... Link to post Share on other sites
coesillian 0 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Gomez >>> Koivuthe cap hit is around $7.35M per season. We just filled the biggest hole on our team. Our team is better with Gomez than with Saku.I'm not sure if any UFA centers available are as good as Gomez and it'll be interesting to see if any centers with Gomez's impact get traded. We may have just landed the best center available. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I'm not sure if any UFA centers available are as good as Gomez and it'll be interesting to see if any centers with Gomez's impact get traded. We may have just landed the best center available.There really isn't, aside from Cammalleri, and the Sedin, who you'll never get without the other. Either of those would be better, but Gomez isn't a terrible addition, either. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 probably well-deserved Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 probably well-deservedHe's not the only one laughing at the Habs these days. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 He's not the only one laughing at the Habs these days.i cant wait till the season the first Leafs/Habs game when Gionta and Gomez are matched agaisnt Orr, Exelby and Komisarek. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I hope Gill starts smashing people. The guy is 6'7", 250 lbs, ffs. How can he not be a hitter?I'm not unhappy with the Habs direction, all things being equal. Cam, Gionta and Gomez can all score and/or set things up. I think the Habs still need some size up front. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I hope Gill starts smashing people. The guy is 6'7", 250 lbs, ffs. How can he not be a hitter?He's too slow to be able to try to take the big hit and not end up terribly out of position. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 He's too slow to be able to try to take the big hit and not end up terribly out of position.Then he can stake himself out in front of the net and terrorize opposing players. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Congrats to Hal Gill...Went from a barely NHL player to a Stanley Cup ring and now the jackpot in Montreal..Too bad its montreal though. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I hope Gill starts smashing people. The guy is 6'7", 250 lbs, ffs. How can he not be a hitter?I'm not unhappy with the Habs direction, all things being equal. Cam, Gionta and Gomez can all score and/or set things up. I think the Habs still need some size up front.Scott Gomez will be 30 and has only ONE season where he scored more than 19 goals.Gionta had one good year and scored 20 goals last year.Camalleri had a great year playing with Iginla and Jokinen. And hasnt shown yet if he can be consistent.Gonna be a fun year...I have been trying to figure out what Bob's motivation was, I think he had no choice but to go and sign anyone he could. His mistake was not managing his UFAs properly last year. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Scott Gomez will be 30 and has only ONE season where he scored more than 19 goals.Gionta had one good year and scored 20 goals last year.Camalleri had a great year playing with Iginla and Jokinen. And hasnt shown yet if he can be consistent.Gonna be a fun year...I have been trying to figure out what Bob's motivation was, I think he had no choice but to go and sign anyone he could. His mistake was not managing his UFAs properly last year.I mean, it's basically been a total self-destruction. the Gomez move was brutal, and then NYR signs Gaborik for a mil or two more per year than Montreal is paying for Gionta. absurdity all around. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I dunno why everyone thinks he hit the jackpot in Montreal. He's getting like less than $500k more than he was on his last contract, which he signed with the Leafs.He's a solid PK guy, his stick play is his biggest strength, but he's a liability if he gets in a foot race, or has the wrong partner. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I dunno why everyone thinks he hit the jackpot in Montreal. He's getting like less than $500k more than he was on his last contract, which he signed with the Leafs.He's a solid PK guy, his stick play is his biggest strength, but he's a liability if he gets in a foot race, or has the wrong partner.he is a poor man's Zdeno Chara...Ok a very very very poor man's though... Link to post Share on other sites
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