Was This Standard?

[simo_8ball 1]

I know you were just needling. You just can't tell that I'm not offended because of my awesome poker face, as displayed in my avatar.

I find that trying to type in a certain tone of voice is difficult.

[shrimp4789 0]

Right, but why do you think that he doesn't have a jack. He called a preflop raise, led the flop and led the turn. HE is the one representing the J. If you don't think he has a J, why don't you think he has it? His play certainly says that he has it.I understand that your play was supposed to convey strength, but the idea is to prey on the weakness in other people. My point here is that it seems like you didn't put him on a J becuase you had AK and you and you wanted to make a play at him so that he'd lay down a better hand than yours, not because his play dictated that he didn't have a J. You see what I'm getting at?Unless you have reasons to believe that this player doesn't hold the Jack there, then you don't make this play. You had said that you didn't know much about the villain, so I find it unlikely that you were familiar enough with his play to know what kinds of hands he makes this play with and therefore you guessed and put your whole stack at risk on a guess.

true enough, i was esentially trying to make villian lay down a hand that could possibly beat me, but of course i didnt know EXACTLY what he had. so in what situations do you try and make someone lay down a hand that currently has you beat on a dangerous board?If you were vilian, would you have called my raise on turn with ducks? like was it a stupid move on his part as well as mine, or was i the lonely idiot in this hand?

[Acid_Knight 2]

true enough, i was esentially trying to make villian lay down a hand that could possibly beat me, but of course i didnt know EXACTLY what he had. so in what situations do you try and make someone lay down a hand that currently has you beat on a dangerous board?If you were vilian, would you have called my raise on turn with ducks? like was it a stupid move on his part as well as mine, or was i the lonely idiot in this hand?

Your hand looks like a draw since you only called on the flop. The board really isn't that dangerous with the exception of the flush draws. Your move was stupid, his wasn't necessarily any better unless he can explain why he did it like "well, I figured that he might have big cards since he raised preflop and so I got a flop that wans't bad for my 22, so I led into him. When he just called me, I figured he probably had like AK or AQ with the flush draw and was trying to hit his hand, but that my 22 was still best. When the turn rolled off it looked like a good card for me because it didn't complete his flush draw so I led again. Now he raised, but I didn't think he had a J becuase I thought he'd have raised me with it on the flop and now he was trying to represent that he had it, but I dind't believe him. I still thought he had 2 big cards and a flush draw, so I pushed with my 22 because I figured they were still best..."You see how there is logic and an explanation for each move that he made there? I'm not saying that he necessarily played well, but if he explained it like that, then at least he did everything that he did for a reason. I am not even sure you knew what range to put him on in the hand. You just felt that you'd move him off of his hand. Do you see the difference?

[shrimp4789 0]

yeah............so my biggest mistake really was not raising on flop? the way i see it now, is 2 options, fold or raise the flop*sigh*.......

[cMcMonkey 0]

yeah............so my biggest mistake really was not raising on flop? the way i see it now, is 2 options, fold or raise the flop*sigh*.......

No, your biggest mistake was making a move without enough consideration of what he actually had and enough foresight into what you were representing. Yes, in this case if you had raised the flop he might have dumped it right there, but the *point* is to make sure you're picking the right spot and the right opponent to make a move on, and the easiest way to do that is to be able to answer the question of *why* with concrete evidence from previous hands and his action on the current hand. Otherwise its a crapshoot whether he has a hand or not and whether he can let it go or not and whether he'll believe you or not.

[Zach6668 513]

yeah............so my biggest mistake really was not raising on flop? the way i see it now, is 2 options, fold or raise the flop*sigh*.......

You understand that you don't have to win EVERY pot right?You miss with AK, and get led into, and you don't have drawing odds, fold and move on.Stop making this game harder than it is.******************Also, I'd like to point out that I HATE when people come in and post incoherent english. l8er, etc IS ONLY SAVING YOU ONE KEYSTROKE! Also, there are examples in this forum, without naming names, that type with no punctuation, capitalization, etc. You can just tell reading it that they're intelligence is the same as a newborn, or they are actually 11 years old. Drives me insane and I wish I could just instaban all of them.

[Acid_Knight 2]

I wish I could just instaban all of them.

Motion seconded and carried.

[simo_8ball 1]

Also, I'd like to point out that I HATE when people come in and post incoherent english. l8er, etc IS ONLY SAVING YOU ONE KEYSTROKE!

Yeah, but "shud i fold JJ wen da flops all 1 suit an he mves in?" saves 10 keystrokes.

[shrimp4789 0]

You understand that you don't have to win EVERY pot right?You miss with AK, and get led into, and you don't have drawing odds, fold and move on.Stop making this game harder than it is.

Sure I understand that, and it obv was a bluff trying to get villian to lay down hand that just didnt work. should have folded on flop....end of story i suppose

Yeah, but "shud i fold JJ wen da flops all 1 suit an he mves in?" saves 10 keystrokes.

LOL

[Zach6668 513]

Yeah, but "shud i fold JJ wen da flops all 1 suit an he mves in?" saves 10 keystrokes.

Yeah, but it makes me want to kill you.I mentioned this to my gf the other day (the driving part), but I'm gonna put it on the record for the cops to see after I do go crazy. I'm fairly certain if I had a gun, and was already a criminal, I would just shoot the bad drivers on the roads. You know, the ones who don't understand acceleration lanes, turning lanes, etc. I'm going to add people who type like retards to that. I think those things bother me more than not converting and posting results, haha.

[shrimp4789 0]

Yeah, but it makes me want to kill you.I mentioned this to my gf the other day (the driving part), but I'm gonna put it on the record for the cops to see after I do go crazy. I'm fairly certain if I had a gun, and was already a criminal, I would just shoot the bad drivers on the roads. You know, the ones who don't understand acceleration lanes, turning lanes, etc. I'm going to add people who type like retards to that. I think those things bother me more than not converting and posting results, haha.

nice.....no more converting hands for me while those people keep typing horribly

[donk4life 34]

I was going to say good posts, but then I noticed the typos. Speak English next time moron.I'm busting chops today. You can ask anyone.

Dont' is obviously a typo...and you only found one legitimate error in his whole post..

[Zach6668 513]

Dont' is obviously a typo...and you only found one legitimate error in his whole post..

Do you understand humour?

[No_Neck 0]

Do you understand humour?

Have you ever seen Futurama, Zap Brannigan understands humor?"Wow, one day a man has everything...,then the following day he blows up a $40 billion space station, and the next day he has nothing. It really makes you think."

[Sefaje 0]

this thread is the twilight zone. seriouslyand zach/acid/other grammar Kings --- i am proof that it's possible to post well without correct punctualization/capitalization. the key is to not spell a bunch of stuff wrong and use lots of small paragraphs.

[Zach6668 513]

this thread is the twilight zone. seriouslyand zach/acid/other grammar Kings --- i am proof that it's possible to post well without correct punctualization/capitalization. the key is to not spell a bunch of stuff wrong and use lots of small paragraphs.

I think small punctuation/capitalization errors/omissions can certainly be ignored if you give solid posts. Good posts don't make you look 14. When people who can't even type their own name properly reply, AND give awful advice, then it's relentlessly annoying.

[Acid_Knight 2]

I think small punctuation/capitalization errors/omissions can certainly be ignore if you give solid posts. Good posts don't make you look 14. When people who can't even type their own name properly reply, AND give awful advice, then it's relentlessly annoying.

What's his name? Mikey Ravioli or something like that? Yeah, go read his posts.

[cMcMonkey 0]

... can certainly be ignored ...

Doh! Seriously, this happens to me every time I make a post somewhere correcting or complaining about someone's grammar or spelling. Its like 5:1 you're gonna screw something up when pointing out someone else's mistake (which means theres at least 2-3 in this post). I like my old English prof. email signature to cover her bases:"The above email is neither chellspecked nor roofpread."

[Zach6668 513]

I just wanted to point out that the ability to edit my posts, AND everyone elses has huge advantages when covering up your own flaws.That is all.

[Naismith 0]

Your all overreacting hear.

[No_Neck 0]

Your all overreacting hear.

BAHAHAHAHAHA, I suck at grammar and poker sorry.

[donk4life 34]

Do you understand humour?

You're such a **** to me zach,all I ever do is shower you with love and affection

[No_Neck 0]

You're such a **** to me zach,all I ever do is shower you with love and affection

I know I was trying to stick up for you. Zap rocks my world.

[donk4life 34]

I know I was trying to stick up for you. Zap rocks my world.

Appreciated, Zap is what made futurama, I seriously jump for joy when I see the episodes with him are on

[Acid_Knight 2]

Appreciated, Zap is what made futurama, I seriously jump for joy when I see the episodes with him are on

You sure it's not just the outfit?