highlimit 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 See here's what doesn't add up. You claim:1) me and another guy tried to get onbut you also say2) whenever u have a big pocket pair and someone else has a bigger one, its a cold deck.If you are seriously good enough to play for $100k in that game, you would realise that it's easy to fold a high pocket pair in a deepstack cash game. That's a rather basic fact of holdem.Now, you also claim3) not anyone can just sit down.Yes they can. It was a game held in a casino, and as such you could have gone in there and played. Remember the Andy Beal HU match at $50k/$100k HE? Of course you do - you were probably asked to play by Doyle himself but you must have been busy with other ventures. Well, if someone came along with a large sum of money they could have sat straight down and started playing. HSP is no different.ok, i wasnt there columbo. yeah, yur right, its another game just like any other. put yur name on the board and wait for a seat to open up. ok, keep folding those big pocket pairs when ace king goes all in when yur getting better than even money to make the call. like i said before, u guys dont have a clue. yur playing the card game and not the money game. yeah, daniel made that call because he is a sucker. u go play him then if he's such a sucker. u sit there and wait for cards all day and guys like daniel r going to rob u. as a whole, someone usually has to call in those spots. the table itself has to defend from someone robbing dead money idiot. this is not a 6/12 game. they dont let u steal easily at the higher levels. i'm glad that people like u are so hard headed, it makes the game easier in the long run. unfortunaterly, i dont play with many idiots like u. Link to post Share on other sites
Naslund44 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 so sorry if you didnt catch my sarcasm to this redic thread Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 keep folding those big pocket pairs when ace king goes all in when yur getting better than even money to make the call.Can you give an example where I would be getting worse than even money on an allin? I'm struggling to think of one. Link to post Share on other sites
highlimit 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Can you give an example where I would be getting worse than even money on an allin? I'm struggling to think of one.pocket jacks in a cash game is a winning hand in the long run. u should never fold a hand that big for an all in when its heads up. if u cant afford the all in, then yur playing the wrong game. true, u can sit there like uni bomber and antonio and be a nit and not take a chance but yur also not going to get paid off as much and yur going to get outplayed more often. there fore, you'l still make a profit and yur swings wont be so high but you wont make as much in the long run. most people dont have the stomach for the big swings.If what your saying is true (which I have no reason at this time to doubt you) then that really sucks. There's nothing worse than fake phony BS. Anyone should be allowed to play. But first come first serve of course. You should have had a chance IMO.its cool. i was only being staked for 1 buyin. i would have had to sit there and wait for a hand. for me to properly play that game, i would need a million. i was just fortunate to know someone that respects my game and had no problems of staking me for 100 grand. to tell u the truth, i didnt even want to go but my friend insisted. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Yes, JJ is a profitable hand. You are saying that it is incorrect to ever fold JJ in a cash game, which is a completely ludicrous statement which would never besaid by a high limit professional.P.S. You still haven't answered my question. Link to post Share on other sites
highlimit 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Yes, JJ is a profitable hand. You are saying that it is incorrect to ever fold JJ in a cash game, which is a completely ludicrous statement which would never besaid by a high limit professional.P.S. You still haven't answered my question. Link to post Share on other sites
highlimit 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Yes, JJ is a profitable hand. You are saying that it is incorrect to ever fold JJ in a cash game, which is a completely ludicrous statement which would never besaid by a high limit professional.P.S. You still haven't answered my question.well, i guess if u went all in, it would be safe to fold pocket jacks because u wouldnt have the game for going all in with anything less than aces or kings. i'll tell u what, u might doubt my experience and expertise but i can guarentee by the way u talk, yur a low limit guy. what do u think makes a good player from the average player? because the good player plays tighter? good players are such because they take chances. they push small edges to the max. phil ivey is the most feared player in poker. do u really think he would fold pocket jacks because its going to cost him 80,000 to make the call? espeacially against a guy like barry greenstein. yes, if yur playing deepstack and u got to fold jj to an allin, yur playing the wrong game. besides, at those stakes, 80,000 is not a big bet. its an easy call with pocket jacks. 80,00 just sounds like a lot because yur idea of a big buy in would be 10 bucks. Link to post Share on other sites
IQCrash 1 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 We haven't had a DN on HSP thread in a while. Link to post Share on other sites
highlimit 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 We haven't had a DN on HSP thread in a while.yet u go out of yur way to make this known. yur so cool. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 yet u go out of yur way to make this known. yur so cool. you're Link to post Share on other sites
bhaas 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 pocket jacks in a cash game is a winning hand in the long run. u should never fold a hand that big for an all in when its heads up. if u cant afford the all in, then yur playing the wrong game. true, u can sit there like uni bomber and antonio and be a nit and not take a chance but yur also not going to get paid off as much and yur going to get outplayed more often. there fore, you'l still make a profit and yur swings wont be so high but you wont make as much in the long run. most people dont have the stomach for the big swings.its cool. i was only being staked for 1 buyin. i would have had to sit there and wait for a hand. for me to properly play that game, i would need a million. i was just fortunate to know someone that respects my game and had no problems of staking me for 100 grand. to tell u the truth, i didnt even want to go but my friend insisted.I'd have a hard time playing that staked to. I wouldn't be afraid to play it. I just wouldn't want to play it with someone else's money. Could I play with them? Good question. IMO, they're just poker players with lots of balls and money. Anyone can win against the best on any given day. The question is, who's day is it today??? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 u might doubt my experience and expertiseYou've never said what your experience and expertise is. All you have done is searched on the internet for HSP season 3, arrived at this forum and started running your mouth off about how:1) you are good enough to play on the HSP series2) you actually tried to get on HSP season 13) you know about the side bets made4) the best players in the world never fold high pairs5) somehow it is possible to get worse than even money on an allin bet.yes, if yur playing deepstack and u got to fold jj to an allin, yur playing the wrong game.You mean you would NEVER fold JJ preflop? Link to post Share on other sites
Flack_attack 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 highlimit=Foxwoodspro???????? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Does anyone else find it hard to believe that the players in HSP would lock the OP and his attitude/strategy out of the game? Personally, I'm a bit skeptical. Link to post Share on other sites
highlimit 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 I'd have a hard time playing that staked to. I wouldn't be afraid to play it. I just wouldn't want to play it with someone else's money. Could I play with them? Good question. IMO, they're just poker players with lots of balls and money. Anyone can win against the best on any given day. The question is, who's day is it today??? the main thing is they have money. its easier to have balls when u have money. for daniel, a million is not a big number. even for antonio. thats why i didnt respect antonios game at all. he has plenty of money but i saw him back down at the wrong times because it was about the money. he was not playing the game very well in the second season. i remember antonio when he used to play here in the small games. he was friends with a friend of mine who taught him a lot of techiques in the game. the only difference with antonio and my circle of friends is that antonio got fortunate to win 1.2 million at the right time and his act was marketable. antonio was a pee on over here. i personally never liked the guy. he's image oriented and when he bacame successful, he totally forgot about the people who helped him out. he's a real punk and his younger brother is worse. Link to post Share on other sites
zsta2k6 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 the main thing is they have money. its easier to have balls when u have money. for daniel, a million is not a big number. even for antonio. thats why i didnt respect antonios game at all. he has plenty of money but i saw him back down at the wrong times because it was about the money. he was not playing the game very well in the second season. i remember antonio when he used to play here in the small games. he was friends with a friend of mine who taught him a lot of techiques in the game. the only difference with antonio and my circle of friends is that antonio got fortunate to win 1.2 million at the right time and his act was marketable. antonio was a pee on over here. i personally never liked the guy. he's image oriented and when he bacame successful, he totally forgot about the people who helped him out. he's a real punk and his younger brother is worse.have you ever considered suicide? Link to post Share on other sites
TenaciousMe 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 highlimit=Foxwoodspro???????? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 for daniel, a million is not a big numberNo, it's just a huge chunk out of his playing bankroll. So much so that he would stop playing the big game. Link to post Share on other sites
highlimit 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 You've never said what your experience and expertise is. All you have done is searched on the internet for HSP season 3, arrived at this forum and started running your mouth off about how:1) you are good enough to play on the HSP series2) you actually tried to get on HSP season 13) you know about the side bets made4) the best players in the world never fold high pairs5) somehow it is possible to get worse than even money on an allin bet.yes, if yur playing deepstack and u got to fold jj to an allin, yur playing the wrong game.You mean you would NEVER fold JJ preflop?well, if i'm running mymouth, then why r u replying? u got nothing to offer. go back to yur little online game. NEVER is a big word. how about 95% of the time. is that acurate enough for you? and yes, in that spot against greenstein, i'll beat him in the pot. why? because barry is capable of making a move like that with any 2 cards. didnt u see him do that with jack ten against eli? or maybe u were playing yur high stakes 1/2 no limit online at the time. dude, yur one of those tight asses that when i have ace jack and u have ace king, and u dont hit yur hand, i take the pot from you. dont take ofense, yur just more scared to lose money than i am. thats why i dont fold pocket jacks and u do. dont lose sleep over it. Link to post Share on other sites
IQCrash 1 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 have you ever considered suicide?Or at least spelling lessons? Your grasp of the english language is atrocious. Link to post Share on other sites
highlimit 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 have you ever considered suicide?no, my life is great. i been doing what a lot of people want to do but cant. i play for a living. also, i'll have my big day too. i play too damn good not to. i just need a little luck at the right week. like the shooting star for instance coming up in feb. a few world class players told me that within the next few years, i'll hit big. so no, i wouldnt consider suicide. i got much to live for Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJoe 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 3) not anyone can just sit down.Yes they can. It was a game held in a casino, and as such you could have gone in there and played. Remember the Andy Beal HU match at $50k/$100k HE? Of course you do - you were probably asked to play by Doyle himself but you must have been busy with other ventures. Well, if someone came along with a large sum of money they could have sat straight down and started playing. HSP is no different.not true man, it's not for sure that anyone can sit at HSP. the producers have say on who sits and who doesn't, I would bet there are people that wanted to play but weren't allowed on. Link to post Share on other sites
highlimit 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Or at least spelling lessons? Your grasp of the english language is atrocious.pfffft, u really think i'm going to write my best for u troglodites. u guys wouldnt crap good in a gold toilet Link to post Share on other sites
Flack_attack 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Lol whats up Harry? Link to post Share on other sites
JaysForLife 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Let me attempt to grasp this, OP, you're a high limit player who is capable of playing with the best players in the world and considers himself to be a superior poker player to the likes of Phil Laak and Antonio Esfandiari yet you spend your entire evening bantering with low limit players on the FCP forums and trying to convince them that your way of playing the game is the right one. sorry im just not buying it. Link to post Share on other sites
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