Jamie Gold

[WaLdOrFiAn 0]

I know im going to be hated for saying this but i like Jamie Gold. If its true thats a shitty thing to do but i like him alot ore than previous champs like moneymaker and fatty raymer.

[HappyG 0]

I know im going to be hated for saying this but i like Jamie Gold. If its true thats a shitty thing to do but i like him alot ore than previous champs like moneymaker and fatty raymer.

bandwagon jumpers...aren't they cute?

[Stylin_Fish 0]

You should all just face the facts like I did a long time ago. Poker is no longer worth the time and mental and emotional pain it causes. I don't think it would be completely crazy to say a decent amount of you here are better then anybody at the final table(except for the 1-2 "pros"). The fact of it is, Tournament poker has turned into almost ALL luck. Even if you are good enough to fold when you are behind, there are still times when you're going to get unlucky and I don't mean just getting 2 outered. I mean the times where it is nearly impossible to fold a hand "set over set" or some mircale "royal flush over a straight flush." With the vast fields of players, you are guaranteed to be in at least one coin flip for all(or close) your chips, which means there are times where your play won't matter, you just have to turn your cards over and watch.Not to mention, but there are very few tournaments "especially the world series" where it is even worth playing in. Any 1500 dollar tournament there is an absolute joke. I'd go into one of these tournaments the same way I do the Binions $80 tournaments. Risk early and try to accumulate chips instead of sitting around being short stacked after the first level and then get knocked out, out of the cash after playing for 2 days. All poker pro's are just lifetime luckbox's who shuffle money between each other in the "big game" not to mention the tournaments where it's invite only and a freeroll. Then suddenly you don't see their name for awhile because they've been absolutely card dead and don't win anything. Then they win a 1.5 million dollar prize and it's because of the skill factor. Um no, variance decided to be good this time.Yes, i know you've seen these posts before from me and most of you think skill wins out in the long run well good luck with that. I really do hope it does and that you will go on to be great poker players. But in the end, where does that really leave you anyways?

[ricker 0]

Fish's rant

Jesus you little snot nosed brat. Is all you know how to do is complain? Yeah, you've had some bad luck over the past year with your girlfriend breaking up and not coming out ahead in poker. But if all you're going to do is come on a POKER forum and talk about how poker is stupid and everyone else who wins is just luckier than you and has nothing to do with the amount of skill you have, then take your pathetic emo ass off this forum and go somewhere where people might give a damn reading your idiotic rants.

[reedmcneal 0]

You should all just face the facts like I did a long time ago. Poker is no longer worth the time and mental and emotional pain it causes... BS

I want to be cool like you and stop playing poker, but continue to have meaningless posts on a POKER forum. Why not go to a church and tell everybody that Jesus isn't that big a deal.

[Stylin_Fish 0]

Jesus you little snot nosed brat. Is all you know how to do is complain? Yeah, you've had some bad luck over the past year with your girlfriend breaking up and not coming out ahead in poker. But if all you're going to do is come on a POKER forum and talk about how poker is stupid and everyone else who wins is just [b\luckier than you and has nothing to do with the amount of skill you have[/b], then take your pathetic emo ass off this forum and go somewhere where people might give a damn reading your idiotic rants.

#1. Okay, i have no idea what you're talking about.#2. I am ahead in poker, just not enough to keep up playing a game.#3. And I'm saying NOW that with the fields so huge, it's 100% advantage to be luckier than skilled. There might have been skilled involved at some point, but not anymore and not often enough to matter. Does poker even make sense anymore? For the average tournament or cash game you might as well throw terms like "pot odds" out of the window because you will eventually run into a person that if he believes he'll hit that gushot, he'll call almost any bet and all you have to do is hope he doesn't hit it.Nowadays the "pros" have so much going for them that who cares if they don't win. Maybe to them it will matter, but they'll still get endorsments and games or have other friends who are riding the good side of variance to back them and they might even sue someone just to get their name back out there.The only reason you are getting mad about this is because i'm giving valid points and making you think about it.

[matt21sz 0]

You should all just face the facts like I did a long time ago. Poker is no longer worth the time and mental and emotional pain it causes. I don't think it would be completely crazy to say a decent amount of you here are better then anybody at the final table(except for the 1-2 "pros"). The fact of it is, Tournament poker has turned into almost ALL luck. Even if you are good enough to fold when you are behind, there are still times when you're going to get unlucky and I don't mean just getting 2 outered. I mean the times where it is nearly impossible to fold a hand "set over set" or some mircale "royal flush over a straight flush." With the vast fields of players, you are guaranteed to be in at least one coin flip for all(or close) your chips, which means there are times where your play won't matter, you just have to turn your cards over and watch.Not to mention, but there are very few tournaments "especially the world series" where it is even worth playing in. Any 1500 dollar tournament there is an absolute joke. I'd go into one of these tournaments the same way I do the Binions $80 tournaments. Risk early and try to accumulate chips instead of sitting around being short stacked after the first level and then get knocked out, out of the cash after playing for 2 days. All poker pro's are just lifetime luckbox's who shuffle money between each other in the "big game" not to mention the tournaments where it's invite only and a freeroll. Then suddenly you don't see their name for awhile because they've been absolutely card dead and don't win anything. Then they win a 1.5 million dollar prize and it's because of the skill factor. Um no, variance decided to be good this time.Yes, i know you've seen these posts before from me and most of you think skill wins out in the long run well good luck with that. I really do hope it does and that you will go on to be great poker players. But in the end, where does that really leave you anyways?

The "Elaborately Disguised Bad-Beat Forum Is Down The Street".

[SilentSnow 1]

i dont know if this story is true(and i bet no one else here does either), but im assuming it's just speculation until i see some proof.1st- he is a multimillionaire. so any sort of stake would be pretty unusual.2nd- it's bodogs problem not his if they want more celebrities to play for them.why would he even care that they wanted another celebrity?3rd- if his ego is even a tenth as big as you guys assume it is, there is no wayin hell he offers a stake of his winnings. he would just give the guy a few thousandfor helping him out.4th- since before he won he was almost anonymous, why would he feel any pressure to get a celebrity to play? i mean seriously, is bodog going to take himto court because he didnt invite a friend?5th- one more thing- why the hell would bodog sponsor someone almost no onehas ever heard of and make it contingent on him finding a more famous person tosponsor? wouldnt it be way more logical to tell him theyll throw in a free sponsorshipfor him if he can find them a celebrity, but then just decline to sponsor him since hecould not? and if they did decide not to sponsor him, wouldnt he just offer to pay his wayif he still wanted to play?(he is a millionaire). this is assuming they would even bother to go to him in the first placeto find a celebrity.i cant say that this story is not true, but it definitely has some huge holes in it.i will assume it is just another baseless rumor unless i see some proof.

[ricker 0]

#1. Okay, i have no idea what you're talking about.

I thought you were the emo kid who kept posting about how broken up he was because some chick choose someone else over you. If it wasn't you, then I apologize.

#2. I am ahead in poker, just not enough to keep up playing a game.

If that's so, then are you luckier than most?

#3. And I'm saying NOW that with the fields so huge, it's 100% advantage to be luckier than skilled. There might have been skilled involved at some point, but not anymore and not often enough to matter.

I will always take hitting a two outer on someone, but in the end, I know that my decisions pre and post flop will ALWAYS give me an advantage over your average player. I don't care HOW lucky someone is, you can't take luck personally. Over a long enough timeline, your "skill" will win out over someone who chases that gutshot. I don't have the energy to explain it to you because I already know you're hardheaded about your opinion and won't change your mind. Just as I'm not going to change my mind about my (albeit correct) opinion.My advice to you is man up and stop complaining about things you have no control over. No, you can't help but feel unlucky when some fish goes runner runner on you to make a straight to kill your TPTK, however, 9 times outta 10, that fish isn't going to make the final table. And even if he does make that final table, more than likely it'll be his ONLY one. In the past year, I've made 15 or so final tables in LIVE tourneys where the structure favors the casino (meaning you have to get luckier than most to make it) does that make me luckier than the average player? No, I play to win and I play the correct way and it's made me money. I've come out ahead in poker. Every single time I've gotten my money in the pot, I've been the favorite, or I've had favorable pot odds for my draws. Each time I've made the correct decision. Does it bother me that sometimes a donk will hit that runnner runner? No! Because I don't take the laws of probability personally, and neither should you. Luck is not the guiding factor in poker if you know what you're doing.

The only reason you are getting mad about this is because i'm giving valid points and making you think about it.

To quote the infamous Smasharoo:You're wrong...Do you see why?

[Stylin_Fish 0]

I thought you were the emo kid who kept posting about how broken up he was because some chick choose someone else over you. If it wasn't you, then I apologize.If that's so, then are you luckier than most? I will always take hitting a two outer on someone, but in the end, I know that my decisions pre and post flop will ALWAYS give me an advantage over your average player. I don't care HOW lucky someone is, you can't take luck personally. Over a long enough timeline, your "skill" will win out over someone who chases that gutshot. I don't have the energy to explain it to you because I already know you're hardheaded about your opinion and won't change your mind. Just as I'm not going to change my mind about my (albeit correct) opinion.My advice to you is man up and stop complaining about things you have no control over. No, you can't help but feel unlucky when some fish goes runner runner on you to make a straight to kill your TPTK, however, 9 times outta 10, that fish isn't going to make the final table. And even if he does make that final table, more than likely it'll be his ONLY one. In the past year, I've made 15 or so final tables in LIVE tourneys where the structure favors the casino (meaning you have to get luckier than most to make it) does that make me luckier than the average player? No, I play to win and I play the correct way and it's made me money. I've come out ahead in poker. Every single time I've gotten my money in the pot, I've been the favorite, or I've had favorable pot odds for my draws. Each time I've made the correct decision. Does it bother me that sometimes a donk will hit that runnner runner? No! Because I don't take the laws of probability personally, and neither should you. Luck is not the guiding factor in poker if you know what you're doing.To quote the infamous Smasharoo:You're wrong...Do you see why?

There was a girl issue, but i just saw "your girl broke up with you" and I was like "uh no."Don't get me wrong, i'm glad you can win where i can not. I know I lack certain skills to play poker, that's why I quit. All I'm saying is very few will ever be good enough to be called "a pro" and i don't see the point in playing to be average. During my 2 year stint(which I know isn't long) I have seen the worse hand win out and have my feeling of being terrified when i'm a 90+ favorite to win the hand come to life.I'm just saying, there are very few tournaments nowadays that allow any "skill" to be used and people can go on steaks for long periods of times where you cash/final table/win 4 tournaments in 6 months. Does that make you skilled? proably not because you were just at your final table in 1 1/2 years.

[Jordan 1]

The only reason you are getting mad about this is because i'm giving valid points and making you think about it.

I normally laugh at your sarcasm, but maybe it's actually serious.You're right on some things, kinda...but you do seem just negative all the time.There's luck in poker. A lot. Especially tournaments. We all know this. I think a lot of the people in the world enjoy that about them, anyone can win.As for cash games, if I have a big enough bankroll, I really do not believe I cannot ever go busto in a game where I have an edge...I don't see why you taking a few, or maybe a few hundred beats have gotten you so down on the game. We all take them...those that accept them and get over it are the ones that are the long run winners...not that guy that donk striked you for a pot yesterday or last week. Who cares, he'll donate it back eventually.- Jordan

[Stylin_Fish 0]

I normally laugh at your sarcasm, but maybe it's actually serious.You're right on some things, kinda...but you do seem just negative all the time.There's luck in poker. A lot. Especially tournaments. We all know this. I think a lot of the people in the world enjoy that about them, anyone can win.As for cash games, if I have a big enough bankroll, I really do not believe I cannot ever go busto in a game where I have an edge...I don't see why you taking a few, or maybe a few hundred beats have gotten you so down on the game. We all take them...those that accept them and get over it are the ones that are the long run winners...not that guy that donk striked you for a pot yesterday or last week. Who cares, he'll donate it back eventually.- Jordan

Mostly everything i say is in a joking manner but I believe a lot of what I say on this particular subject. Tournament poker is an absolute joke and I don't enjoy cash games enough to play it. I use to tear up SNG's, but then they changed up the format and I never adjusted to the play(mainly because it's absolutely horrible).Yes, I am going through a very hard time in my life where I am constantly depressed but the depression has nothing to do with my results in poker. I come here to talk to you guys and give my views about poker occasionally.

[WhatArunAA 0]

Mostly everything i say is in a joking manner but I believe a lot of what I say on this particular subject. Tournament poker is an absolute joke and I don't enjoy cash games enough to play it. I use to tear up SNG's, but then they changed up the format and I never adjusted to the play(mainly because it's absolutely horrible).Yes, I am going through a very hard time in my life where I am constantly depressed but the depression has nothing to do with my results in poker. I come here to talk to you guys and give my views about poker occasionally.

I enjoy your views and please keep posting.. some of the things you say are vvvvvvvvery true

[Stylin_Fish 0]

I enjoy your views and please keep posting.. some of the things you say are vvvvvvvvery true

Thank you.

[Spademan 94]

I think this would be a good time to point out how much better I am than everyone else.Back to your regularly schedualed programming.

[williskl 0]

I hate to say this as i didnt believe it at first but maybe they SHOULD raise the buyin to 25k. Could get alot of the idiots out and still have their big numbers

[mhoward29 0]

You should all just face the facts like I did a long time ago. Poker is no longer worth the time and mental and emotional pain it causes. I don't think it would be completely crazy to say a decent amount of you here are better then anybody at the final table(except for the 1-2 "pros"). The fact of it is, Tournament poker has turned into almost ALL luck. Even if you are good enough to fold when you are behind, there are still times when you're going to get unlucky and I don't mean just getting 2 outered. I mean the times where it is nearly impossible to fold a hand "set over set" or some mircale "royal flush over a straight flush." With the vast fields of players, you are guaranteed to be in at least one coin flip for all(or close) your chips, which means there are times where your play won't matter, you just have to turn your cards over and watch.Not to mention, but there are very few tournaments "especially the world series" where it is even worth playing in. Any 1500 dollar tournament there is an absolute joke. I'd go into one of these tournaments the same way I do the Binions $80 tournaments. Risk early and try to accumulate chips instead of sitting around being short stacked after the first level and then get knocked out, out of the cash after playing for 2 days. All poker pro's are just lifetime luckbox's who shuffle money between each other in the "big game" not to mention the tournaments where it's invite only and a freeroll. Then suddenly you don't see their name for awhile because they've been absolutely card dead and don't win anything. Then they win a 1.5 million dollar prize and it's because of the skill factor. Um no, variance decided to be good this time.Yes, i know you've seen these posts before from me and most of you think skill wins out in the long run well good luck with that. I really do hope it does and that you will go on to be great poker players. But in the end, where does that really leave you anyways?

These things you are bit.ching about... it sounds an awful lot like poker. Thats what poker is, deal with it or dont play. Looks like you have chosen not to play. Poker will still go on without you. Shut the fu.ck up, no one cares and this is a poker forum, so leave, cuz you hate it so much.

All I'm saying is very few will ever be good enough to be called "a pro" and i don't see the point in playing to be average.

No shi.t sherlock, if it were that easy to be a pro what would be the point? You dont see everyone playing in the NFL do you? If your going to argue or bi.tch about something, make it relevant.

I've come out ahead in poker. Every single time I've gotten my money in the pot, I've been the favorite, or I've had favorable pot odds for my draws. Each time I've made the correct decision.

Wow, never ran KK up againest AA huh? Or never went for a Q high flush draw againest a bigger one? You must be the LUCKIEST player alive to always make the right decision, or maybe thats only in the eye of the beholder?

[ricker 0]

Wow, never ran KK up againest AA huh? Or never went for a Q high flush draw againest a bigger one? You must be the LUCKIEST player alive to always make the right decision, or maybe thats only in the eye of the beholder?

OK, I guess my previous post did come off as condescending, you got me thereand I apologize for that. True, I don't always make the right decision, and I get coolered ALLLLLL the time. But my point was I don't take the fact that I get bad beated or coolered personally. My point was that if you make enough correct decisions, you will come out ahead, while his point was that it was all luck, which any winning poker player will tell you is completely and 100% inaccurate.

[Mercury69 3]

I enjoy your views and please keep posting.. some of the things you say are vvvvvvvvery true

I agree.As for Jamie Gold, regardless of what he is truly like, he still comes across as a ******. There are so many mixed messages coming from this guy and so many stories going around about him, mostly negative, that it would be very difficukt to discount them all. Did anyone talk **** like this about Raymer, Hachem or even Moneymaker? No. People call Moneymaker a huge donk, but he hasn't had anywhere near the negative press, in the past couple of years, that Gold has had in the past few days. To me, he seems like he's an obfuscating, self-serving, spoiled little ***** who lies thorugh his teeth every chance he gets. Oh, snap! I forgot! He's a Hollywood talent agent! That's what they generally do for a living, anyway. He may not be a pro poker player, but he's a pro bullshitter, no doubt.

[ripptyde 0]

Mostly everything i say is in a joking manner but I believe a lot of what I say on this particular subject. Tournament poker is an absolute joke and I don't enjoy cash games enough to play it. I use to tear up SNG's, but then they changed up the format and I never adjusted to the play(mainly because it's absolutely horrible).Yes, I am going through a very hard time in my life where I am constantly depressed but the depression has nothing to do with my results in poker.

How can you sit there and say depression has nothing to do with poker results ? That is the most idiotic statement I have ever heard in my life.Its no wonder you are a losing player if all you do is cry and moan about how you don't enjoy the game. Sounds to me like you just SUCK and you have emotional issues. If you aren't playing poker anymore then WTF are you doing on a poker forum.

[nutzbuster 7]

This just posted on E-Bay....NEW 2006 WSOP Main Event winners bracelet!!!!Tarnished and covered in slime.Bidding starts at .02 cents.

[SwamiSwan 0]

You should all just face the facts like I did a long time ago. Poker is no longer worth the time and mental and emotional pain it causes. I don't think it would be completely crazy to say a decent amount of you here are better then anybody at the final table(except for the 1-2 "pros"). The fact of it is, Tournament poker has turned into almost ALL luck. Even if you are good enough to fold when you are behind, there are still times when you're going to get unlucky and I don't mean just getting 2 outered. I mean the times where it is nearly impossible to fold a hand "set over set" or some mircale "royal flush over a straight flush." With the vast fields of players, you are guaranteed to be in at least one coin flip for all(or close) your chips, which means there are times where your play won't matter, you just have to turn your cards over and watch.Not to mention, but there are very few tournaments "especially the world series" where it is even worth playing in. Any 1500 dollar tournament there is an absolute joke. I'd go into one of these tournaments the same way I do the Binions $80 tournaments. Risk early and try to accumulate chips instead of sitting around being short stacked after the first level and then get knocked out, out of the cash after playing for 2 days. All poker pro's are just lifetime luckbox's who shuffle money between each other in the "big game" not to mention the tournaments where it's invite only and a freeroll. Then suddenly you don't see their name for awhile because they've been absolutely card dead and don't win anything. Then they win a 1.5 million dollar prize and it's because of the skill factor. Um no, variance decided to be good this time.Yes, i know you've seen these posts before from me and most of you think skill wins out in the long run well good luck with that. I really do hope it does and that you will go on to be great poker players. But in the end, where does that really leave you anyways?

I actually agree....poker is bullsh*t. 'wanting to be a pro' is bullsh*t; why do pros need to pump websites and have to sue to protect their images, etc. etc. ?? becuase there is nothing else: no future in poker. Why? because the level of player sophistication has checked any advantage pros have; they sold any advantage they had off in books etc. and now must adapt to a better class of amature. i.e. the 'fish' are now 'pikers'. Poker is NOT a sport, and tourney's are just 'Pyramid Schemes' where luck is all that really matters, becuase what determines if you get to the final table is how many all in suck outs you can get.I can see poker going the way of 'multi level marketing' and 'get rich quick'. The next TV series will be: "Who wants to be a poker star?"

[Mercury69 3]

How can you sit there and say depression has nothing to do with poker results ? That is the most idiotic statement I have ever heard in my life.Its no wonder you are a losing player if all you do is cry and moan about how you don't enjoy the game. Sounds to me like you just SUCK and you have emotional issues. If you aren't playing poker anymore then WTF are you doing on a poker forum.

WTF is wrong with you, Riptyde? You haven't got any right to take that tone or perspective with Stylin'. Take your azzhole attitude and shove it right up your pooper. Fu ckwad.

[ripptyde 0]

I actually agree....poker is bullsh*t. pros are bullsh*t thats why they need to pump websites and have to sue to protect their images, etc. etc. becuase there is nothing else: no future in poker, it is NOT a sport, and tourney's are just 'Pyramid Schemes' where luck is all that really matters, becuase what determines if you get to the final table is how many all in suck outs you can get.

OMFG not another one. You idiot there are MANY people out there making a consistent living playing poker. Any seasoned player will tell you that in the long run poker is 80% skill 20% luck. "All luck, all suckouts" jesus please stop being a whiner, and learn how to play pokerROFL (posts like these crack me up)

[Kuge 0]

This just posted on E-Bay....NEW 2006 WSOP Main Event winners bracelet!!!!Tarnished and covered in slime.Bidding starts at .02 cents.

I haven't check out to see if this is for real...if it is it will be a sad day for poker...yet funny for some reason. But I don't have a good sense for (sw)...so I way off base.On a side note, tone it down, too many cheap shots for me to read after being up only 30 minutes...at least try to dilute it down.