Royal_Tour 0 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...nge+2nd+Editiondocumentary about 9/11 Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 if this is the conspiracy one, then it is a repost, and I watched all of it. Very good, interesting. Some of it implausible. Some seems real.Charlie Sheen ain't crazy. Praise Heidi Fleiss. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted May 2, 2006 Author Share Posted May 2, 2006 if this is the conspiracy one, then it is a repost, and I watched all of it. Very good, interesting. Some of it implausible. Some seems real.Charlie Sheen ain't crazy. Praise Heidi Fleiss.Ya, sorta like a michael moore type 1 extreme sided view, but some very very interesting facts about the building, about the firefighters who survived, and about past buildings with 6+ floor fires Link to post Share on other sites
CrackofmyACE 1 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...topic=50991&hl= Link to post Share on other sites
InsanityCubed 0 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Obviously this film should be taken with a grain of salt, but when you think about it, it's no more implausible than anything else we've been fed. So many things like this are instantly dismissed as conspiracy theories, without even considering any evidence or lack thereof. If someone had come up to you on Sept. 10, 2001, and told you exactly what would happen on Sept 11th, you would have laughed at them and called them insane. After the fact, because it's what we've been "officially" told, it's taken as gospel. More than that, anyone who even suggests alternative possibilities is looked at like they've grown a third head. For some reason the idea of a government lying to the people becomes ridiculous as soon as the T word is thrown into the mix. Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 saw it and liked it and then read some stuff disputing itwho knows?I'd like to know if its true the cell phone calls were impossible Link to post Share on other sites
InsanityCubed 0 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 saw it and liked it and then read some stuff disputing itwho knows?I'd like to know if its true the cell phone calls were impossibleI've seen conflicting info on whether the calls were possible, but the part that gets me is the guy using his full name when he calls his mother. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I call my mom, I don't even use my first name, it's usually just "It's me." Link to post Share on other sites
vonteego3 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I've seen conflicting info on whether the calls were possible, but the part that gets me is the guy using his full name when he calls his mother. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I call my mom, I don't even use my first name, it's usually just "It's me."How often do you call your mother in a situation as stressful as this one? Link to post Share on other sites
Love4hockey 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I'm interested in why both flight 93 and the plane that crashed into the pentagon incinerated.This makes you wish that you could have an hour long talk with Bush and maybe a few other high ranking people. Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 How often do you call your mother in a situation as stressful as this one?No way would I ever use my last name to greet my mother in ANY situation. It makes zero sense. None.There is some pretty damning stuff in this documentary. Link to post Share on other sites
InsanityCubed 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 How often do you call your mother in a situation as stressful as this one?Why were the voices so calm? And what terrorist worth his salt would allow people to make these phone calls? The timing and tactics of their attack was so good it took the UNITED STATES MILITARY by surprise, yet they allow Oaklahoma Joe to call mommy and tell her about his captors? Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 the terrorists letting them make the calls doesn't bother me - they are planning to kill themselves for their calls - they want credit - Link to post Share on other sites
InsanityCubed 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 the terrorists letting them make the calls doesn't bother me - they are planning to kill themselves for their calls - they want credit -Pretty sure they were getting credit regardless, but point taken. Link to post Share on other sites
beans-n-icewater 18 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I hate to ring in with a serious post here but it is very possible to re-create the same disaster as 9/11 again without a hijacker in the cockpit. Modern airliners have category 3 auto-land and GPS navagation systems that can be hacked.I use an approved GPS approach nav/com (not near as sophisticated of course) in our Cherokee that acts peculiar around Nellis once in a while...Or it could be the Coronas... Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I hate to ring in with a serious post here but it is very possible to re-create the same disaster as 9/11 again without a hijacker in the cockpit. Modern airliners have category 3 auto-land and GPS navagation systems that can be hacked.I use an approved GPS approach nav/com (not near as sophisticated of course) in our Cherokee that acts peculiar around Nellis once in a while...Or it could be the Coronas...i'll take the first explanation and send it to paul phillips i'll take the second explanation and convince myself that's it Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 The conspiracy theories are entertaining but thats about it. All the one's that I've seen have serious flaws. And I've seen bits of Loose Change (the video keeps going out on me), but I was not impressed.The actual events that took place were probably very close to what the government says happened. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I've seen conflicting info on whether the calls were possible, but the part that gets me is the guy using his full name when he calls his mother. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I call my mom, I don't even use my first name, it's usually just "It's me."not to mention there was only like a .006% chance of ONE cell phone call going through clearly, whats that? .00000000018% of THREE going through.Some of it it seemed like they were reached to much, Like the "debris" that fell from one of the towers after it shook. It was probably a person. Lots of people were jumping.But yeah, listen to the boondocks, Jesus was black, Ronald Reagen is the Devil, and the government is lying about 9/11The conspiracy theories are entertaining but thats about it. All the one's that I've seen have serious flaws. And I've seen bits of Loose Change (the video keeps going out on me), but I was not impressed.The actual events that took place were probably very close to what the government says happened.Then why dont they prove it.4 cameras had shots of the plane hitting the Pentagon and they've only released five FRAMES from one in which nothing is detectable. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I'm interested in why both flight 93 and the plane that crashed into the pentagon incinerated.Why is it surprising that a plane traveling hundreds of miles per hour and loaded with explosive fuel would, upon striking a solid object, explode and burn up? Oh wait, it's not. Link to post Share on other sites
CrackofmyACE 1 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Why is it surprising that a plane traveling hundreds of miles per hour and loaded with explosive fuel would, upon striking a solid object, explode and burn up? Oh wait, it's not.BUT the 2 missing gigantic jet engines that could not possibly burn up upon explosion do raise some eyebrows....where did they go? Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 BUT the 2 missing gigantic jet engines that could not possibly burn up upon explosion do raise some eyebrows....where did they go?Xenu took them, he loves a good conspiracy. It's true! Tom Cruise told me after he took away my happy pills and gave me vitamins. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 i don't have the patience to sit through this, but i've read a lot about what happened that day, and i find the war games to be the most bizarre happenings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_games_in_...tember_11,_2001 Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 if this is the conspiracy one, then it is a repost, and I watched all of it. Very good, interesting. Some of it implausible. Some seems real.Charlie Sheen ain't crazy.(False) Praise Heidi Fleiss.(True) Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 The conspiracy theories are entertaining but thats about it. All the one's that I've seen have serious flaws. And I've seen bits of Loose Change (the video keeps going out on me), but I was not impressed.The actual events that took place were probably very close to what the government says happened.Let the video load while it's paused for about 20 minutes and then watch it. The whole thing. Then come back here and tell us about all the serious flaws. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 The video really makes you think and offers some decent possibilities, but in order to really subscribe to the conspiracy theories you have to believe that the same government that couldn't keep Clinton's blowjob a secret could cover something like this up and keep it quiet for this long. Link to post Share on other sites
DerekTah 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Why is it surprising that a plane traveling hundreds of miles per hour and loaded with explosive fuel would, upon striking a solid object, explode and burn up? Oh wait, it's not.Consider that plane and the Petigon plane are the only two in history to completly incinerate (granted according to the documentary, if there is prove that this has occured before please correct me) then yes it is surprising.I like some of this, but other stuff I didn't care for. For example lets say that there are explosives in the building. Why does it have to be the goverments, why can't it be terrorists who were told "when the planes hit you know what to do". The documentary brings up the idea of weird stuff going on before 9/11 but leaves it in speculation rather than any outright proof that the bombs are not terrorist made. Link to post Share on other sites
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