Random News Observations

[FCP Bob 1,312]

This is just freaking insane.

 

Alleged neo-Nazi bomb-maker gets bond

 

 

ORLANDO (FOX 13) - An Orlando home is where Brandon Russell will be spending all of his time while he awaits trial on explosives charges.

 

Federal Judge Thomas McCoun granted bond for Russell Friday, writing there was no clear and convincing evidence "the defendant represents a threat to any person or community."

 

Last month, cops found bomb-making material, weapons, and ammo in the garage of his Tampa Palms apartment. On his bedroom dresser, a framed picture of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh. On his computer, Nazi and white supremacist propaganda.

 

The 21-year-old, who is a member of the Florida National Guard, admitted to being a neo-Nazi sympathizer, and to making explosives materials.

 

In federal court Thursday, we learned while cops were discovering all of this disturbing evidence, Brandon Russell went shopping to buy more guns and 500 rounds of ammo. This time he took a buddy along who shares the same neo-Nazi beliefs.

 

Russell's dangerous plot came to light after his roommate, Devon Arthurs was arrested and charged with the murder of their two other roommates. Arthurs led police to the bodies and to Russell's bombs.

 

Arthurs says all of the roommates, Jeremy Himmelman, Andrew Oneshuk, and Brandon Russell were neo-Nazi believers, but recently Arthurs converted to the Islamic faith and turned on his roommates. Especially, he says, they disrespected his new Muslim beliefs.

Arthurs told cops Brandon Russell often threatened, on white supremacist websites, to blow up buildings and kill people.

 

While federal prosecutors called Russell a real threat to the community, the judge didn't see it that way. Conditions of Russell's bond have not been released by Judge McCoun. Once they are, Russell will be released from the Pinellas County jail.

[Balloon guy 158]

Florida....

[Scrim 115]

As I understood it, they were in an engineering club and had a Youtube channel.

"Neo Nazi Bombmakers" may be histrionic.

 

The allegations that he 'made threats' came from the Muslim who murdered the other two guys.

[Balloon guy 158]

Any chance he was in a reality show called the neo-nazi next door?

 

 

[FCP Bob 1,312]

good analysis of why Saudi Arabia is pissed at Qatar.

 

WHY US$50 OIL IS AT THE HEART OF THE SAUDI-QATAR CONFLICT

[Scrim 115]

97% of Puerto Ricans just voted for US Statehood.

 

The title on CNN is, literally,

(Some) Puerto Ricans vote for US statehood

 

http://www.cnn.com/2...ndum/index.html

 

#FakeNews

 

Democrats who used to laud causes such as "Puerto Rican Independence" now view it as a potential voting bloc to tip the scales in the Presidential election.

The Republicans have, literally, one choice here. Rush to embrace them and forgive all their debt, or let the Democrats do that.

[GOCUBSGO 77]

97% of Puerto Ricans just voted for US Statehood.

 

The title on CNN is, literally,

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2...ndum/index.html

 

#FakeNews

 

Democrats who used to laud causes such as "Puerto Rican Independence" now view it as a potential voting bloc to tip the scales in the Presidential election.

The Republicans have, literally, one choice here. Rush to embrace them and forgive all their debt, or let the Democrats do that.

 

Yeah, you clearly didn't read the article or you're so desperate to convince others that CNN is fake news that you just ignored the actual content.

 

"Ninety-seven percent of the votes favored statehood but voter participation was just 23% after opposition parties called for a boycott of what they called a "rigged" process in part over the ballot language."

 

The title was clearly meant to emphasize that while 97% of votes favored statehood, voter participation was only 23%. There is not a single thing that is inaccurate or fake about it. Good try though.

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The title was clearly meant to emphasize that while 97% of votes favored statehood, voter participation was only 23%. There is not a single thing that is inaccurate or fake about it. Good try though.

 

Innovative theory you got there.

Just what is the 'participation level' we accept for a ballot result to be considered decisive, if not the actual ballot result itself?

[Dubey 1,035]

at least they ran the story. If It was a partisan story that was positive for the Dems, Fox would have just ran a story about Hillary's emails instead.

[GOCUBSGO 77]

It's a caveat worth noting. There is nothing fake about. They didn't misrepresent anything. They didn't make anything up. They reported the facts and titled the article in a way that tips the reader off that maybe there was more to the story then just "97% of Puerto Ricans vote in favor of US Statehood". Anyone with a brain can read that article and realize the reason that (Some) was used in the title.

 

If only one person voted in the US Election and that vote was cast for Donald Trump, should the title of the article be "America overwhelmingly elects Donald Trump" with no mention of the fact that only one vote was cast?

[Scrim 115]

It's a caveat worth noting. There is nothing fake about. They didn't misrepresent anything. They didn't make anything up. They reported the facts and titled the article in a way that tips the reader off that maybe there was more to the story then just "97% of Puerto Ricans vote in favor of US Statehood". Anyone with a brain can read that article and realize the reason that (Some) was used in the title.

 

If only one person voted in the US Election and that vote was cast for Donald Trump, should the title of the article be "America overwhelmingly elects Donald Trump" with no mention of the fact that only one vote was cast?

 

I'm unaware of any Democracy that attenuates a Democratic result based on the number of people who voluntarily chose to participate in the voting.

Voter participation is a huge safeguard of Democracy, acknowledging that people who can't be bothered to participate self-select as people who don't deserve a voice.

 

Just 58% of eligible voters voted in 2012, of which Obama won about 51% of that, or 29%'ish of the voting population.

What you're saying is that Obama was a sham president? Due to the voter turnout numbers? Or does your logic have cross-application problems?

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I'm unaware of any Democracy that attenuates a Democratic result based on the number of people who voluntarily chose to participate in the voting.

Voter participation is a huge safeguard of Democracy, acknowledging that people who can't be bothered to participate self-select as people who don't deserve a voice.

 

Just 58% of eligible voters voted in 2012, of which Obama won about 51% of that, or 29%'ish of the voting population.

What you're saying is that Obama was a sham president? Due to the voter turnout numbers? Or does your logic have cross-application problems?

 

It's amusing to me that you can't seem to grasp the point of this debate given how smart you clearly think you are. I'm not arguing that the election results are diminished or negated by low turnout. Voter turnout has and always will be a noteworthy topic of any election or major vote and is almost always reported on. Are you arguing that it shouldn't be reported on because it doesn't change the outcome?

 

Nothing about CNNs article was inaccurate or misleading. Your claim of fake news was idiotic and that has been my point the entire time.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

This isn't fake news.

 

How Russia Targets the U.S. Military

With hacks, pro-Putin trolls and fake news, the Kremlin is ratcheting up its efforts to turn American servicemembers and veterans into a fifth column.

[scuudagouch 15]

Just another example of Obama's failed world policy. Don't worry The Donald is going to get it fixed....as soon as he is done sweeping the floor with the Dems on the Hill.

[GOCUBSGO 77]

Just another example of Obama's failed world policy. Don't worry The Donald is going to get it fixed....as soon as he is done sweeping the floor with the Dems on the Hill.

 

Sooo like never?

[Scrim 115]

It's amusing to me that you can't seem to grasp the point of this debate given how smart you clearly think you are. I'm not arguing that the election results are diminished or negated by low turnout. Voter turnout has and always will be a noteworthy topic of any election or major vote and is almost always reported on. Are you arguing that it shouldn't be reported on because it doesn't change the outcome?

 

Nothing about CNNs article was inaccurate or misleading. Your claim of fake news was idiotic and that has been my point the entire time.

 

Nobody is arguing that they shouldn't report on voter turnout. The point is using the word "most" for an election result that yielded a result of 97%. That is how media tactically narrates. If you don't understand this, you're legit stupid.

 

Narration 1:

Few Puerto Ricans Choose Independence, Voter Turnout Low. Measure Passes.

 

Narration 2:

Independence Overwhelmingly Wins in 97% Landslide Victory

 

Both headlines, entirely true but serve two totally different agendas. This is how they work. Using "most" in a headline for a 97% election result is absolutely lies by narration. If you struggle to understand this, you're naive. It's the old...

 

Three car race was on Friday. Japan won, USA took 2nd, Russia 3rd. Saturday's Pravda headline reads "RUSSIANS TAKE 3RD IN BIG RACE"

Byline: France Wins Gold, Americans, 2nd to Last

 

For someone who expresses concern about how smart I think I am, you should worry more about how smart you actually are or aren't, because this is not a new concept I'm making up here and by any rational standard, reporting 97% as "most" is evidence of an event that does not fit a media entity bias, no different than if the headline read "27% of Eligible Voters Choose Obama".

[GOCUBSGO 77]

So nothing about the article was fake or made up, but by your standards it's fake news because you don't like how they titled the article despite there being a perfectly good reason for it?

 

Got it bud.

[GOCUBSGO 77]

I'll refer back to my original point about anyone with a brain being able to read that article and understand why it was titled the way it was.

[GOCUBSGO 77]

Is all news fake news since every major media outlet is guilty of pushing the narrative they want?

 

If that's the case, why single out this specific article and this specific outlet?

 

For every example you can produce of CNN pushing a narrative, I can produce an example of Fox News doing the same.

[scuudagouch 15]

and the media is DOMINATED by liberal reporters....be careful you might have to see the light.

[GOCUBSGO 77]

No disputing that the media is overwhelmingly left leaning but that doesn't change the fact that right wing outlets push their own narratives as well.

 

Instead of just labeling everything fake news based on titles, I actually, you know, read the article and then form my own opinion based on facts and my own research.

 

 

[scuudagouch 15]

In case you didn't notice most people are sheep and just follow along...they like being taken care of and aren't aware of enough things to realize they get taken advantage of by the very people they vote into office. That is why they are Democrats...they just don't know any better but the story sounds good

 

Lucky or all of us many of them wise up around 28 or 30.

[Scrim 115]

Is all news fake news since every major media outlet is guilty of pushing the narrative they want?

 

If that's the case, why single out this specific article and this specific outlet?

 

For every example you can produce of CNN pushing a narrative, I can produce an example of Fox News doing the same.

 

According to you, as we see here, when CNN does it its a 'perfectly good reason' whereas when Fox does it, you'd change your mind and claim that was agenda.

But yes. Most media outlets are agenda-ridden trash. Left or right, the retard left with CNN or MSNBC, the retard right with Fox. That's how media ghettoes work. If you're on the right, your news is the REAL NEWS THAT DEALS WITH FACTS IN A BALANCED WAY! where the other guy is the opposite of that.

 

What we saw in the CNN article was clearly deliberate partisan narration, bullshit, if you don't (or wont) see it, the problem is yours., I doubt your stated position on democratic elections and voting percentages would cross apply to Obama in 2012 who was chosen by a percentage of the population that roughly approximates the percentage of the Puerto Rican population who voted for Statehood. Right?

 

RIGHT?

 

Dateline, 2012: "Obama Elected President By a Mere 27% Of Eligible American Voters Due To Procedural Technicality" is a 100% true headline.

What you're saying here is that you DON'T see the agenda in that because the details are factual?

[Dubey 1,035]

It's a poor analogy at best.

 

If the 2012 election had rampant voter fraud and the Republicans urged their voting base not to turn out because they feared the election was already rigged in the democrats favour, then your analogy holds some water.

[Scrim 115]

WE'RE BOYCOTTING THIS ELECTION is how losing causes save face when an inevitable loss looms.

 

Statehood polling in PR has reached major new heights due to their debt crisis, so the anti-statehood people say they're "boycotting the referendum" since that lets them feel like they had some involvement in their ideas being rejected at the polls and has retards such as we see in this very thread thinking that the result was contingent on their 'boycott'.