strategy 4 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Thought Koreans were starving?he used to be thin and athletic. they intentionally made him fat to resemble his father and grandfather.there's still hope that he's just acting for the sake of pleasing the military while he's still green, that he might someday support unification. I don't know if I'd even want that burden if I were SK's leadership. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 he used to be thin and athletic. they intentionally made him fat to resemble his father and grandfather.there's still hope that he's just acting for the sake of pleasing the military while he's still green, that he might someday support unification. I don't know if I'd even want that burden if I were SK's leadership.Why would anyone willingly give up power if they had complete and total power? That's probably happened maybe once in the history of the world. The only example I can remember is when Maximus killed that emperor dude in the arena and then gave the power to the senate. WHAT SELFLESSNESS! Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 This would never have happened under Clinton!He had a budget line item for this stuffNor would this Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Why would anyone willingly give up power if they had complete and total power? That's probably happened maybe once in the history of the world. I only example I can remember is when Maximus killed that emperor dude in the arena and then gave the power to the senate. WHAT SELFLESSNESS! juan carlos Idon't forget, there's a bunch of evidence that he was educated outside of north korea, probably got a bunch of exposure to the real world. I wouldn't call it LIKELY, mind you. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 don't forget, there's a bunch of evidence that he was educated outside of north korea, probably got a bunch of exposure to the real world. I wouldn't call it LIKELY, mind you.True story, my brother in law at the time of Kim Jong Il's father dying and him taking his place was the head of intelligence for the entire Pacific Region for the navy stationed in Pearl Harbor. We were visiting them during the dad's death and he had to stay at work all day for over watch.I asked him if the son would be a better or worse alternative to the dad.He said almost the exact same thing you are saying here about Kim Jong Il Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 True story, my brother in law at the time of Kim Jong Il's father dying and him taking his place was the head of intelligence for the entire Pacific Region for the navy stationed in Pearl Harbor. We were visiting them during the dad's death and he had to stay at work all day for over watch.I asked him if the son would be a better or worse alternative to the dad.He said almost the exact same thing you are saying here about Kim Jong Ilyeah, I'm not holding my breath. Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 KimJongNumberUn@KimJongNumberUnStill confused about what went wrong. Thought Diet Coke and Mentos was foolproof.My favorite twitter account. Hilarious stuff.KimJongNumberUn@KimJongNumberUnQ: Why does the North Korean Secret Service never get in trouble with prostitutes? A: Failure to launch. #BOOM #LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Never stiff your ho's! "The scandal — a black eye for the United States’ reputation abroad..." Hahahahhahahaaa...Black eye bitch slap! Pay up, cheap ass muthafukka! Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Who cares about the Secret Service doing their thing in Columbia. Have you ever seen Columbian women? This kind of shit is everywhere...Any man who goes down there and DOESN'T bang hoes is clearly some kind of Manchurian Candidate infiltrator and needs to be questioned. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 "I am Colombiana, too!" Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I for one applaud the SS for trying to implement cost saving methods in their advance team budget items...I guess being in the field constantly trying to do advance team work for the many Obama vacations finally took its toll. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Got to love the judge here.Cliffs:Woman city employee embezzles $50,000 from a fund for children.Judge punishes her with 3 years probation, and orders her to pay back...$10 a month for a total of $360When prosecutor asks for the entire $50,000 since she had the money on hand at the time of sentencing, the judge says he doesn't want to burden her.In the mean time she is collecting $1,800 a month in unemployment benefits...Yea...our country is doomed Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Got to love the judge here.Cliffs:Woman city employee embezzles $50,000 from a fund for children.Judge punishes her with 3 years probation, and orders her to pay back...$10 a month for a total of $360When prosecutor asks for the entire $50,000 since she had the money on hand at the time of sentencing, the judge says he doesn't want to burden her.In the mean time she is collecting $1,800 a month in unemployment benefits...Yea...our country is doomed "But I, for one, am not...And I'm having lunch with said judge tomorrow." Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Yea...our country is doomedYeah, that's a pretty 'odd' sentence in light of the facts. Still, for every one of those, there are twenty who do five years in prison plus 10 years of probation plus restitution plus fines plus court costs plus a forever-felony plus an essentially ruined life."They should have thought of that before they..." is a topic for another discussionAs far as sentencing goes, complete and utter ruination of someones life is pretty much the baseline penalty for most all offenses- I've seen this issue from more angles than any of you can even imagine- and it's ugly, so I'm really not wringing hands of injustice when someone gets a light sentence, on the basis of the other 99 cases just like it that turned out differently. Link to post Share on other sites
phlegm 6 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Why would anyone willingly give up power if they had complete and total power? That's probably happened maybe once in the history of the world. The only example I can remember is when Maximus killed that emperor dude in the arena and then gave the power to the senate. WHAT SELFLESSNESS!To get back on track, does anyone really think this nerd pulls the strings in NK?Im sure the military is the rel power. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 Yeah, that's a pretty 'odd' sentence in light of the facts. Still, for every one of those, there are twenty who do five years in prison plus 10 years of probation plus restitution plus fines plus court costs plus a forever-felony plus an essentially ruined life."They should have thought of that before they..." is a topic for another discussionAs far as sentencing goes, complete and utter ruination of someones life is pretty much the baseline penalty for most all offenses- I've seen this issue from more angles than any of you can even imagine- and it's ugly, so I'm really not wringing hands of injustice when someone gets a light sentence, on the basis of the other 99 cases just like it that turned out differently.Employers can only hold felonies against you from the last like 5 or 7 years, correct?I know nothing about felonies. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Employers can only hold felonies against you from the last like 5 or 7 years, correct?I know nothing about felonies.lol Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Yeah, that's a pretty 'odd' sentence in light of the facts. Still, for every one of those, there are twenty who do five years in prison plus 10 years of probation plus restitution plus fines plus court costs plus a forever-felony plus an essentially ruined life."They should have thought of that before they..." is a topic for another discussionAs far as sentencing goes, complete and utter ruination of someones life is pretty much the baseline penalty for most all offenses- I've seen this issue from more angles than any of you can even imagine- and it's ugly, so I'm really not wringing hands of injustice when someone gets a light sentence, on the basis of the other 99 cases just like it that turned out differently. Then you would be interested in this:Cliffs: Norway killer who killed 77 people will only get maximum of 21 years for crime Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Cliffs: Norway killer who killed 77 people will only get maximum of 21 years for crimeAnd now, the rest of the story...They have what amounts to civil commitment procedures that can keep him locked up forever which, in a case like this, is essentially a guarantee. Granted, their criminal justice philosophy is very, very different from ours. They believe strongly in forgiveness and rehabilitation, we are a 'punishment only' nation. In particularly heinous cases (this, the Lockerbie bomber, etc) Europe seems goofy and we appear to be on the more desirable road but ultimately, they realize the hugely negative consequences of giving into the temptation to make sweeping policy based on outliers and worst case scenarios. They're smart enough to realize they don't want to wind up like us. Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Employers can only hold felonies against you from the last like 5 or 7 years, correct?I know nothing about felonies.Different states have different laws but as long as criminal records go back to forever, those laws are totally ineffective since management will just run the check, back-burner the ex-offenders application and hire someone else. In most of Europe, a conviction becomes 'spent' after a period of time living crime free and is sealed as a matter of procedure. In the United States, in a lot of states, Felony convictions are essentially a lifelong punishment.Federal offenses are all lifelong with no relief mechanism whatsoever (short of a Presidential Pardon, which only relieves post-conviction disabilities and does not expunge the record) some states have expungement procedures but in the age of private databases, even that's becoming ineffectual. Also, none of that addresses the digital artifacts of an offense that remain online forever (unless you live in a country with "Right To Forget" legislation).For example, the local newspaper isn't going to take down the police blotter with your name in it. That's there for good. There's a hugely lucrative business in the mugshot extortion racket, where they take public mugshot records, optimize them to your name and city so your mugshot is high on Google whenever anyone searches your name, then charges $69 to "remove" it... Problem is, there are so many mugshot sites now running this scheme, getting one removed from the internet can be thousands of dollars, in some cases, impossible.I have a relative who runs a high-turnover business- her stories of what she's found when googling applicants are hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 So you're saying that crime doesn't pay? Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 yeah maybe those people should have thought about that before they broke the law Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 yeah maybe those people should have thought about that before they broke the lawAmen, brother. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 They're smart enough to realize they don't want to wind up like us.Wait til they start getting a few cases like this, then they'll be singing a different tune. You can't just go light on people like this. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Wait til they start getting a few cases like this, then they'll be singing a different tune. You can't just go light on people like this.And thanks to the activist conservative judges on the Supreme Court, they could strip search her if they felt like it! Ah, freedom... Link to post Share on other sites
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