New Challenge: Movin' On Up

[BellaireDrew 2]

I'd be doing that with like KQ there ftr, but I doubt many people are and definitelty nobody at 10nl

like you ever make top pair

[trystero 0]

i would kinda lean towards villain having a FD in this hand.. maybe he chose to donk his FD on flop and turn and gave up on river.we may have very well have had the best hand the whole time here.

Based on results I'd say it's very likely that villain had been betting the draw, but there's nothing inconsistent with him betting a made hand and then checking to induce. It's not as if the line makes no sense.

[KingJames 11]

First hand at table, dude opens 10x, second hand he opens 14x, he limps 3rd hand, 4th hand he opens 39x or whatev...Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB minbuy donkey: $25.00 UTG YALP_steL: $10.57 UTG+1 padroney: $26.45 CO Hero: $25.00 Button argirislado: $15.25 SB slapyormama15: $17.97 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)YALP_steL raises to $9.96, padroney folds, Hero raises to $25, and is all in, 3 folds, YALP_steL calls $0.61, and is all inFlop: ($21.49) (2 players)Turn: ($21.49) (2 players)River: ($21.49) (2 players)YALP_steL showed , and won ($20.42) with two pair, Aces and SixesHero showed , and lost with two pair, Jacks and SixesYALP_steL won $20.42(Rake: $1.07)FML I can't win anymore

[KingJames 11]

57/39/6 over 56 handsMoooooooooooraaawwwr.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 5 playersCO simspeare: $9.48 Button samsun369: $51.23 SB Hero: $27.19 BB Farmer Jim: $42.61 UTG Gewoon Betalen: $37.79 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with (5 players)Gewoon Betalen folds, simspeare raises to $1, samsun369 folds, Hero raises to $3, Farmer Jim folds, simspeare calls $2Flop: ($6.25) (2 players)Hero checks, simspeare bets $6.48, and is all in, Hero calls $6.48Turn: ($19.21) (2 players)River: ($19.21) (2 players)simspeare showed , and won ($18.25) with a straight, Ace highHero showed , and lost with three of a kind, Queenssimspeare won $18.25(Rake: $0.96)

[KingJames 11]

Well, if you can't win as a 96% favorite, make sure you get teh mobney in when they are drawing deadFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB huggybaer33: $29.93 UTG Gettofish: $28.87 UTG+1 Hero: $26.84 CO mike32872: $18.23 Button dermaikde: $25.00 SB DeepInCidurr: $25.10 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)Gettofish raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, mike32872 calls $0.85, dermaikde calls $0.85, DeepInCidurr calls $0.75, huggybaer33 foldsFlop: ($4.50) (5 players)DeepInCidurr checks, Gettofish checks, Hero bets $2.75, mike32872 raises to $5.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.75Turn: ($15.50) (2 players)Hero checks, mike32872 bets $11.88, and is all in, Hero calls $11.88River: ($39.26) (2 players)Hero showed , and won ($37.30) with two pair, Aces and Kingsmike32872 showed , and lost with two pair, Kings and SixesHero won $37.30(Rake: $1.96)

[KingJames 11]

also gettofish is like 8/4 thru 60 hands, so I didn't 3b

[king1305 0]

Anyone here want to learn HU?

[droberts 3]

Anyone here want to learn HU?

raises hand. i play it.. i just need to learn it.

[KingJames 11]

July:Played more hands than ever before, but I didn't play them all well.Cash: ($170)Rakeback: $125Volume propbet: $25Online Total: ($20)Live: $70Total: $50I kept working on my game by being involved in sweats and reviewing HHs and talking poker. I watched a lot of videos and feel like I continued to learn and get better, so I'm not worried, although I was soul crushed most of the month. I took time off when I was playing really badly, but never really got anything going.So August goals;12-15k handsContinue to be involved in strat discussions, sweats, and HH reviews.Watch videos critically

[SuperJon 175]

Yeah, cash was pretty harsh this month for me as well.My first losing month this year. Luckily tournaments saved me and allowed some profit.JULY CASHCash - ($10.35)Tournaments - $314.11Total - $303.76

[babylondonks 5]

teach me HU king

[king1305 0]

teach me HU king

trade sexual favors for HU lessons? deal.

[SuperJon 175]

[Ninja Ace 1]

OMFG... live 1/2 NL is easy but it's like waiting 10 hours for the busoh, UTG limp raised me? I guess kings are no good...oh, I got raised holding bottom 2? guess this is an easy foldoh, the crazy asian guy opened from the button I flatted with AJhh and the flop came 2-3-3 rainbow, better close my eyes and call down the impending 3 barrels

[QED 4]

July goals:Get back to 20k hands for the month now the world cup is in it's final stages.Make profits imo.

[ ] 20k hands[ ] profits[x] playing 25NLI'm on my second shot at 25NL. It seems pretty clear where I have a big leak.My red line gets pwned pretty good when I play 25NL, you can see where I went back to 10NL and it goes flat then drops off again when I go back to 25NL. I've played just under 10k hands at 25NL now and here are some stats worth looking at red line wise:Flop C-bet 48.5%Flop C-bet% success 48%W$WSF 34.9%If anyone has any suggestions for stats it would be good to look at to work out where I'm going wrong here that would be good :)Totalpoker: -$26.35bonuses and donkaments: $62.13= $35.7818918 handsAugust goalsPlay 20k handsprofitsort out my red line

[SuperJon 175]

Despite not winning at cash in July, I did manage to get the roll up enough to take another shot at 25NL. So I'm going to start the month there, and hope for the best.

[Ninja Ace 1]

My red line gets pwned pretty good when I play 25NL, you can see where I went back to 10NL and it goes flat then drops off again when I go back to 25NL. I've played just under 10k hands at 25NL now and here are some stats worth looking at red line wise:Flop C-bet 48.5%Flop C-bet% success 48%W$WSF 34.9%If anyone has any suggestions for stats it would be good to look at to work out where I'm going wrong here that would be good

Your showdown percentage is a tid bit on the high side. You don't c-bet nearly enough. You're probably never double barreling. You're probably not betting for value thin enough. You're probably not bluff catching.

[SuperJon 175]

Your showdown percentage is a tid bit on the high side. You don't c-bet nearly enough. You're probably never double barreling. You're probably not betting for value thin enough. You're probably not bluff catching.

Like this?Villain was 34/22 over 100+ hands. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP ($42.03)Hero (CO) ($28.21)Button ($41.27)SB ($89.36)BB ($65.69)UTG ($23.22)Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 , 9 2 folds, Hero bets $0.75, Button calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50Flop: ($2.35) 7 , J , 8 (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 1 foldTurn: ($5.85) 6 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25River: ($12.35) 2 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $7.75, Hero calls $7.75Total pot: $27.85 | Rake: $1.36Results:Button had 10 , A (high card, Ace).Hero had 9 , 9 (one pair, nines).Outcome: Hero won $26.49

[babylondonks 5]

Your showdown percentage is a tid bit on the high side. You don't c-bet nearly enough. You're probably never double barreling. You're probably not betting for value thin enough. You're probably not bluff catching.

FTR he didn't give showdown numbers that I can see. That WWSF% is absurdly low though, most people have it around 41-47% iirc

[Ninja Ace 1]

FTR he didn't give showdown numbers that I can see. That WWSF% is absurdly low though, most people have it around 41-47% iirc

yeah i need to stop quick glancing in this thread that's like 2 major oops...so yeah you should definitely be winning money more than 1/3 of the time you see flops that's insane low. All the signs just point to you being a fit/fold player who isn't fighting for a single potJon. The example above is indeed a nice bluff catch... the point about bluff catching for redline mobnies is... say you are in a river spot where you're getting 2:1 on your money to pick off a bluff and you're right 40% of the time in this spot. It's a clear call because you will profit long term, but on the graph you will see your blue line drop (since you'll be losing showdowns more often) and your red line rise since you aren't giving up uncontested.I think the redline is the most misunderstood part of the graph... people seem to think that big redlines are signs of huge bluff frequency... when really a lot of the times it's just making value plays to the proper thinness

[QED 4]

FTR he didn't give showdown numbers that I can see. That WWSF% is absurdly low though, most people have it around 41-47% iirc

I was going to post a longer reply but I decided to lose money and get tilted instead so I'll do that tomorrow. I did an initial look at my stats based on the info on this 2+2 thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78/micro...-thread-158015/It seems to suggest there that 35% is the min for winning players, I don't know how accurate that is.

[Ninja Ace 1]

I was going to post a longer reply but I decided to lose money and get tilted instead so I'll do that tomorrow. I did an initial look at my stats based on the info on this 2+2 thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78/micro...-thread-158015/It seems to suggest there that 35% is the min for winning players, I don't know how accurate that is.

Don't effing listen to 2p2

[SuperJon 175]

My stats for the year. Anything in particular you guys think needs to be worked on?

[SuperJon 175]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP ($26.92)Button ($24.60)Rico Suave (SB) ($33.80)BB ($5.21)UTG ($31.91)Preflop: Rico Suave is SB with 9 , 9 2 folds, Button bets $0.65, Rico Suave raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Button calls $1.60Flop: ($4.75) 9 , K , 4 (2 players)Rico Suave checks, Button checksTurn: ($4.75) 4 (2 players)Rico Suave checks, Button bets $2.25, Rico Suave raises to $7, Button raises to $17, Rico Suave raises to $31.55 (All-In), Button calls $5.35 (All-In)River: ($49.45) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)Total pot: $49.45 | Rake: $2Results:Button had lol K , 10 (two pair, Kings and fours).Rico Suave had 9 , 9 (full house, nines over fours).Outcome: Rico Suave won $47.45

[QED 4]

Your showdown percentage is a tid bit on the high side. You don't c-bet nearly enough. You're probably never double barreling. You're probably not betting for value thin enough. You're probably not bluff catching.

so yeah you should definitely be winning money more than 1/3 of the time you see flops that's insane low. All the signs just point to you being a fit/fold player who isn't fighting for a single pot

I think you are pretty much 100% right, playing at the lowest levels probably gets you into bad habits because of how the villains play there. I definitely need to add stuff like double barreling to my arsenal now I'm playing 25NL, at lower levels it seemed extremely rare that people were folding turns after calling flops.Here are some further stats I've filtered upSaw flop in positionflop cbet 53%flop cbet success 50%WTSD 21.9%W$SD 56%W$WSF 42%bb/100 78.70hands 415Saw flop out of positionflop cbet 44.4%flop cbet success 45.5%WTSD 19.9%W$SD 60%W$WSF 29.5bb/100 25.86hands 528In position especially I guess I need to just hammer the c-bet button and look for decent turn cards to follow on with. I've found 26 hands where my c-bet was raised or check raised to go over as well, which I thought was happening a lot more and was partly why I let my c-bet % drop so much but it's like 26/452 hands.