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A+ trolling. Ignore the dozen posts I made directed at you in threads you were reading and respond to this one. High five!
I'm pretty sure that the people who work for Obama teach freshman year economics at Harvard...
Ok... pretend to not understand how basic supply and demand works for a pleasant lie to pass the cluster**** of the healthcare bill. Better?
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I'm pretty sure that the people who work for Obama teach freshman year economics at Harvard...
Didn't Bush graduate from that school.And didn't he take those classes to get a degree in business?
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So typical of a Republican, always trying to bring things back to Bush.
Just trying to decide if Harvard as a school is so great that anyone who graduates from it are the bomb...Or the school is not living up to your accolades.
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Other than today's announcement that this gives him full justification to consider banning all off shore drilling. Just a month after announcing that off shore drilling was going to get his support.]
A lot has happened in that month.
And as Henry pointed out, Obama is getting way too much of a pass for his actions to date.
But again, what actions do you want him to take? Other than the "Bush got shit for katrina, it's not fair, it's not FAIR" argument, I just don't see what people want the US government in general, and Obama specifically to do.
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A lot has happened in that month.
Not really. If this was a common occurrence than that would be one thing. When a single accident causes to you to take radical steps, then the phrase over reaction comes to mind
But again, what actions do you want him to take? Other than the "Bush got shit for katrina, it's not fair, it's not FAIR" argument, I just don't see what people want the US government in general, and Obama specifically to do.
Invade?
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Not really. If this was a common occurrence than that would be one thing. When a single accident causes to you to take radical steps, then the phrase over reaction comes to mind
Yeah, a single catastrophic accident. Because there was never one of these before, people couldn't really see the risk. Obviously, the risk of one of these oil rigs blowing up is small, but given the massive disaster that occurs when it does happen, people need to seriously consider if the risk of offshore drilling is worth it. How common of an occurrence do you need a catastrophic environmental disaster to be to make off shore drilling not worth it? I don't think people realize how ****ed the gulf is going to be, for how long.
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I may have to apologize for this thread.Apparently Obama has taken action.Yesterday he told his aids to "Plug the d$%# hole!"Glad he is so smart

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A+ trolling. Ignore the dozen posts I made directed at you in threads you were reading and respond to this one. High five!
i disagree with you on: basically everything. not sure what else you want from me.
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Here's the thing, though. BP has about 100 times more knowledge about how to plug one of these holes that the Government does, so other than exerting pressure on BP to fix it faster, I don't know what anyone thinks the government can do that BP can'tOther than a small contained nuclear blast, which I heard worked in stopping one of these leaks in russia. The reason BP doesn't want to do this, I've heard, is it would make the field undrillable.
Hey, I heard that too. I bet we heard it from the same place.If this would work while making the field undrillable, should the government force this action?I think they should. Obviously BP is trying to protect its bottom line, but it seems to me like the repercussions on everyone else are serious enough to warrant government intervention.
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Just trying to decide if Harvard as a school is so great that anyone who graduates from it are the bomb...Or the school is not living up to your accolades.
A) Harvard sucks. Bunch of pompous rich kids getting churned out into i-bankersB) Anyone can get into Harvard Business school if that were really their goal, especially if their dad will send the CIA to assassinate the dean if they don't get inC) Small difference between taking classes and teaching classesD) Why am I responding to this bait? Shouldn't I be doing actual work (yes, I should)
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Hey, I heard that too. I bet we heard it from the same place.If this would work while making the field undrillable, should the government force this action?I think they should. Obviously BP is trying to protect its bottom line, but it seems to me like the repercussions on everyone else are serious enough to warrant government intervention.
I agree 100 percent, I think trying to preserve the oil field while continuing to wreck the gulf coast is the epitome of corporate selfishness , and exactly what the government is for, to protect to public good. Note I'm not making the statement "selfishness" as a value judgement. It makes sense why a corporation would want to protect it's resources. They make money from drilling oil, not from fishing shrimp or tourism. It's just that I think the interest of our society out weight the economic self interest of bp
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A) Harvard sucks. Bunch of pompous rich kids getting churned out into i-bankersB) Anyone can get into Harvard Business school if that were really their goal, especially if their dad will send the CIA to assassinate the dean if they don't get inC) Small difference between taking classes and teaching classesD) Why am I responding to this bait? Shouldn't I be doing actual work (yes, I should)
Sometimes you need to bait the hook properly. You accomplish this by knowing your fish.
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I agree 100 percent, I think trying to preserve the oil field while continuing to wreck the gulf coast is the epitome of corporate selfishness , and exactly what the government is for, to protect to public good. Note I'm not making the statement "selfishness" as a value judgement. It makes sense why a corporation would want to protect it's resources. They make money from drilling oil, not from fishing shrimp or tourism. It's just that I think the interest of our society out weight the economic self interest of bp
So then you think the government should get involved and force BP to set aside their selfish motives and fix the problem?Or do you think the stock holders of BP should take care of this?
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So then you think the government should get involved and force BP to set aside their selfish motives and fix the problem?Or do you think the stock holders of BP should take care of this?
I'm saying that if there's a solution that will stop the oil leak, but it also will make the field undrillable, then that option should be taken, because the damage this oil to society is greater than the benefit we will get by drilling it. I don't know that such a solution exists, btw. But if it's being withheld because BP doesn't want to lose the field, then yes, that's when I think gov. should step in. But again, I don't know if such a thing exists, I just heard on a sports radio show that russia capped one of these spills with a nuclear blast. Random sports radio shows aren't exactly the authority I hope our government is using to make this sort of decision.
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I'm saying that if there's a solution that will stop the oil leak, but it also will make the field undrillable, then that option should be taken, because the damage this oil to society is greater than the benefit we will get by drilling it. I don't know that such a solution exists, btw. But if it's being withheld because BP doesn't want to lose the field, then yes, that's when I think gov. should step in. But again, I don't know if such a thing exists, I just heard on a sports radio show that russia capped one of these spills with a nuclear blast. Random sports radio shows aren't exactly the authority I hope our government is using to make this sort of decision.
I wonder who would have the knowledge of the russians setting off a nuke to stop an oil leak....
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I wonder who would have the knowledge of the russians setting off a nuke to stop an oil leak....
Sarah Palin? Witnessed it from her porch?
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All of the "Why don't they just...? Well, the Russians did this one time..." suggestions of how to fix this crack me up and reminds me of when the Russian Submarine the Kursk went down. That was in 300 feet of water and basically impossible to save the poor guys presumed trapped inside. 300 feet.We've been to the freaking Moon, but 300 feet in water might as well be a different Galaxy.This oil well is 5,000 feet below the surface. Just in terms of Atmospheric Pressure that is the difference between about 10 atm (300 feet) and over 150 atm at 5,000 feet. You don't "just" do anything at 150 atm.As far as detonating a nuke, oh, sorry "small contained nuclear blast" is so full of unknowns as to be more irresponsible than doing nothing, or at least exhausting the more reasonable controllable options. To minimize their actions as being "corporate greed" is a little simplistic. This is a far more complex environment than most people give it credit for being. Plus I am guessing that BP doesn't exactly have a stockpile of small contained nuclear weapons sitting in a warehouse ready to deploy. They aren't going to be able to drill in that field ever again and they know it - nuclear contamination or not.

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All of the "Why don't they just...? Well, the Russians did this one time..." suggestions of how to fix this crack me up and reminds me of when the Russian Submarine the Kursk went down. That was in 300 feet of water and basically impossible to save the poor guys presumed trapped inside. 300 feet.We've been to the freaking Moon, but 300 feet in water might as well be a different Galaxy.This oil well is 5,000 feet below the surface.As far as detonating a nuke, oh, sorry "small contained nuclear blast" is so full of unknowns as to be more irresponsible than doing nothing, or at least exhausting the more reasonable controllable options. To minimize their actions as being "corporate greed" is a little simplistic. This is a far more complex environment than most people give it credit for being. Plus I am guessing that BP doesn't exactly have a stockpile of small contained nuclear weapons sitting in a warehouse ready to deploy. They aren't going to be able to drill in that field ever again and they know it - nuclear contamination or not.
That's why I said " Random sports radio shows aren't exactly the authority I hope our government is using to make this sort of decision.", because I really know **** all about how feasible it is.
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That's why I said " Random sports radio shows aren't exactly the authority I hope our government is using to make this sort of decision.", because I really know **** all about how feasible it is.
OK. Reasonable enough.
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