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just to let you know, this was all fiction to get players reactions. takin notes for the tables. i am posting a serious question on strategy if you want to indulge? "how to play early" under tournament strategies. i suppose no one cares any more, but that what poker is about....discussion and strengthening your game.

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A player UTG minraises, you have 15 bbs, you have absolutely no room to do anything else other than shove or fold. SINCE THE RAISE CAME FROM UTG, AND ASSUMING THIS PLAYER ISN'T A MANIAC HE'S PROBABLY NOT DOING THIS WITH JUNK. BUT YOU, BEING MORONIC, DECIDE TO CALL, AND BASICALLY FLOP A DREAM FLOP FOR YOUR HAND AND WANT TO FOLD. WHAT BETTER FLOP DO YOU WANT FOR YOUR HAND WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE 15 BBS?

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A player UTG minraises, you have 15 bbs, you have absolutely no room to do anything else other than shove or fold. SINCE THE RAISE CAME FROM UTG, AND ASSUMING THIS PLAYER ISN'T A MANIAC HE'S PROBABLY NOT DOING THIS WITH JUNK. BUT YOU, BEING MORONIC, DECIDE TO CALL, AND BASICALLY FLOP A DREAM FLOP FOR YOUR HAND AND WANT TO FOLD. WHAT BETTER FLOP DO YOU WANT FOR YOUR HAND WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE 15 BBS?
i see no one reads ....thats 3 that didnt see i had 18bb to start the hand (some said raise, some said shove, some said it was a donk call) and i need to chip up. i still had room to manuever before i was forced to go all in, and i did manuever and made 8th, cashing. i had over 15bb on the flop! i guess morons are supposed to push it all in pre or fold?? it was a situation we all get into (maybe with different hands such as J10 and flop comes Q96, but this was what i came up with) and yes, 2 ways to play then fold or call i was getting a cosensus on how many would do either? too many know-it-all poker players i guess, that cant discuss sticky situations. i guess i should have made it simple for some people to follow.
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i see no one reads ....thats 3 that didnt see i had 18bb to start the hand (some said raise, some said shove, some said it was a donk call) and i need to chip up, i still had room to manuever before i was forced to go all in, and i did manuever and made 8th cashing. i had over 15bb on the flop! i guess morons are supposed to push it all in pre or fold?? it was a situation we all get into (maybe with different hands such as J10 and flop comes Q96, but this was what i came up with) and yes, 2 ways to play then fold or call was getting a cosensus on how many would do either? too many know-it-all poker players i guess that cant discuss sticky situations. i guess i should have made it simple for some people to follow.
This isn't sticky, you either jam or fold preflop, that's not sticky at all. If you would like to continue bashing us, then give me your online name, and we can play Heads Up if you want.
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New player? I'm far from a new player; I was unaware that posting on fcp and experience in poker were directly related. And yes, I'm a winning player. Go ahead, go look me up.
I'll be surprised if he knows how.
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did anyone ever have it cross thier mind that 1st pos just wanted to see a flop with 66? its a great way to slow the betting down by min raise UTG and see a cheap one? if so, i had 2 overs with flush and straight possibilities. they check, i bet...or they bet 1/2 the pot on flop and i come over the top with 3,500, still leaving me with 10bb. blinds are going up and i can still steal a pot if they are weak. if not playing this hand, i have 13 hands to see, then be forced to go all-in. it was worth a shot. i still would have 10bb and 5 hands to see b4 im forced. FINE !!! i tried to make something happen. i dont sit around to get blinded off. call me a donk, but how many times have you sat a table and not had a hand to play for 45min? i dont have 45min to wait.

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You're a donk. People who are successful winning players on have given you the exact opposite advice that you are offering, and you refuse to accept it. Your 186% ROI probably comes from one tournament where you got extremely unlucky.

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well why don't we just flat 95s b/c he might have 33 and we have flush and straight possibilities!!!Flatting pre is atrocious here, especially if you're folding a flop like this. You're not having any sort of revolutionary breakthrough here, you're making a badly losing play.

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well why don't we just flat 95s b/c he might have 33 and we have flush and straight possibilities!!!Flatting pre is atrocious here, especially if you're folding a flop like this. You're not having any sort of revolutionary breakthrough here, you're making a badly losing play.
would almost anyone call a min raise with sm/mid pkt pair having 18 BB? of course you would!!!. i'm so sick of hearing garbage that KJsuited was a bad call....think about it, i had WAY more chances to hit a flop and crack AA, than a 2 outer to hit a set you idiots!!! if you had pkt pair and missed, you dump it, same thing. wake up, open your eyes and play WINNING poker. funny how i cash 1.27 out of 4 tournys i play, and my cash game is pretty damn good too. i must be bad. you wont smell the coffee and play poker....just wait to blind out or be lucky by catching hands that are dealt to you. so sick!! u ever watch a deep stack tourny??it doesnt stay that way forever, even the pros get to a point where most are sitting at 20to50BB (do they stop playing) you either make it or break it. i still had that one shot to take b4 i was forced. i went from 18BB to 15BB WOW!! that really crushed me LOL
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LOL this is beyond epic.

\would almost anyone call a min raise with sm/mid pkt pair having 18 BB? of course you would!!!
No, none of us winning players would do that.
i'm so sick of hearing garbage that KJsuited was a bad call....think about it, i had WAY more chances to hit a flop and crack AA, than a 2 outer to hit a set you idiots!!!
Actually, a pocket pair has a much better chance of beating AA than KJ does. Now who is the idiot?
if you had pkt pair and missed, you dump it, same thing. wake up, open your eyes and play WINNING poker. funny how i cash 1.27 out of 4 tournys i play, and my cash game is pretty damn good too. i must be bad. you wont smell the coffee and play poker....just wait to blind out or be lucky by catching hands that are dealt to you. so sick!! u ever watch a deep stack tourny??it doesnt stay that way forever, even the pros get to a point where most are sitting at 20to50BB (do they stop playing) you either make it or break it. i still had that one shot to take b4 i was forced. i went from 18BB to 15BB WOW!! that really crushed me LOL
You ARE bad. And you wonder why everyone has been calling you out here? You come on here brand new and tell us that we don't know how to play when you are wrong about the basics?
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funny..you show me this , yet all i see you guys talk about is .02/.05 nl. i dont see you on opr (official poker rankings. people who had accounts that closed them to the public, it will say that, yours dont) i'm just sayin. impressive if true. how much do you spend to make that??? everything back? 42%roi? whatever. im done with closed minded players who just sit back and dont play poker, nor do they want to discuss anything cuz they are to good for everyone else. i'm thinkin...you play against the big boys and you cant compete. at least i have a post flop game, and it seems all of you play is power flops and pre....nothing else. gl
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funny..you show me this , yet all i see you guys talk about is .02/.05 nl. i dont see you on opr (official poker rankings. people who had accounts that closed them to the public, it will say that, yours dont) i'm just sayin. impressive if true. how much do you spend to make that??? everything back? 42%roi? whatever. im done with closed minded players who just sit back and dont play poker, nor do they want to discuss anything cuz they are to good for everyone else. i'm thinkin...you play against the big boys and you cant compete. at least i have a post flop game, and it seems all of you play is power flops and pre....nothing else. gl
http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstar...8F8ED7.html?t=2http://officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltp...A56061.html?t=2Can't wait to find out whose joke account this is!
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