brvheart 1,752 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 Yeah, many people love the big lebowski, but I think it's underrated as a serious film. I think it's just about perfect. I can totally understand the blood simple thing, right place right time thing. I just don't think it compares to their more polished work that came later.Yeah, it was certainly groundbreaking, and if I hadn't been like 6 when it came out, I'm sure I would like it much more than I do. Also, it's very important to note that if the Coen's made the movie again right now, it would be infinitely better. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 I'm dropping Raising Arizona a few spotsYou picked the wrong movie in your top 3 to drop. Both of the other two would be a better choice. You definitely need to rewatch Hudsucker Proxy next, because it's much better than Barton Fink, and is easily a top 3 Coen movie. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 You picked the wrong movie in your top 3 to drop. Both of the other two would be a better choice. You definitely need to rewatch Hudsucker Proxy next, because it's much better than Barton Fink, and is easily a top 3 Coen movie.Nah. I've seen Hudsucker a few times. JJL is good, but just cannot stand Tim Robbins. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 You picked the wrong movie in your top 3 to drop. Both of the other two would be a better choice. You definitely need to rewatch Hudsucker Proxy next, because it's much better than Barton Fink, and is easily a top 3 Coen movie.Dropping fargo would not be a better choice. I think you and me and this r/l friend of mine are in the absolute minority of Hudsucker devotee's Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 Dropping fargo would not be a better choice.agree to disagree.I think you and me and this r/l friend of mine are in the absolute minority of Hudsucker devotee'sThat's because the other people are retarded. Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 18 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think you and me and this r/l friend of mine are in the absolute minority of Hudsucker devotee'sI ranked it third behind No Country and Lebowski, although I think it's in a lower tier than those two.1. No Country For Old Men2. The Big Lebowski3. Hudsucker Proxy Link to post Share on other sites
frautotenkinder 1,025 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Has anyone else seen A Serious Man?When I saw it I liked it, but the longer I think about it, the more I like it. Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 18 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Has anyone else seen A Serious Man?When I saw it I liked it, but the longer I think about it, the more I like it.I didn't even know it was out yet.This forum is the only place I've seen anything about it. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 Has anyone else seen A Serious Man?When I saw it I liked it, but the longer I think about it, the more I like it.How the hell have you seen it already? It won't be in Iowa for another couple weeks.Also... all Coen brothers movies get better with time. I can't think of a single movie they've made, that that doesn't apply to. Link to post Share on other sites
frautotenkinder 1,025 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I live in LA, and saw it at an early screening. It hit theaters October 9th.Coen Brothers memory for me? I saw O Brother when I was out of the country, the film was still in English, with foreign subtitles. The theater was packed, the audience was enjoying things, and then there was a joke about being tarred and feathered. The audience was silent, and you could hear the five Americans in the theater cracking up. I knew jazz, baseball, and Mormonism were American--who knew being tarred and feathered was also American? Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Also... all Coen brothers movies get better with time. I can't think of a single movie they've made, that that doesn't apply to.This is a good point. I saw the big lebowski in the theatre, and I didn't quite get it the first time I saw it. I thought it was funny, but I didn't think it was sheer genius. Then I saw it again in college and it just slayed me but also blew me away. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think part of understanding just how good the Coen's are is related to how much you know/understand of their source material. Sure, they write most of their own stuff, etc, but they borrow liberally from a number of genres. Big Lebowski, for example, is very much framed as a Film Noir. NCFOM is like the anti-hero Western. O Brother si a combo screwball comedy/musical. Point is, knowing this kind of stuff makes the viewing experience that much richer. Same goes for some other directors, but let's stick with the Coen's... Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think part of understanding just how good the Coen's are is related to how much you know/understand of their source material. Sure, they write most of their own stuff, etc, but they borrow liberally from a number of genres. Big Lebowski, for example, is very much framed as a Film Noir. NCFOM is like the anti-hero Western. O Brother si a combo screwball comedy/musical. Point is, knowing this kind of stuff makes the viewing experience that much richer. Same goes for some other directors, but let's stick with the Coen's...[insert a picture that Joey would love] Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 18 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 [insert a picture that Joey would love]Here's one: Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 Here's one:exactly what I was thinking. Link to post Share on other sites
Theraflu 1,035 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I live in LA, and saw it at an early screening. It hit theaters October 9th.Coen Brothers memory for me? I saw O Brother when I was out of the country, the film was still in English, with foreign subtitles. The theater was packed, the audience was enjoying things, and then there was a joke about being tarred and feathered. The audience was silent, and you could hear the five Americans in the theater cracking up. I knew jazz, baseball, and Mormonism were American--who knew being tarred and feathered was also American?I was wondering if anyone had seen it yet...It's only showing in the small indy-theatres in Boston, which I'm too lazy to go to. The trailer is amazing and I want to go see it, but I'm so god damned lazy. Maybe I'll make the effort this weekend into the city. It's tough when all their films are better enjoyed in multiple viewings; why spend the dough to see it the first time and not understand it fully? Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 Today, Encore Mystery showed Barton Fink, Miller's Crossing, and No Country. Love it. Link to post Share on other sites
qyayqi 11 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I would like to point out that I took this advice about 6 months ago, and DAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMNNNNNNNN!!!!!! That's all I will say. DAMN!!!indeed. indubitably indeedy do. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Today, Encore Mystery showed Barton Fink, Miller's Crossing, and No Country. Love it.Miller's Crossing is awfully good. Link to post Share on other sites
rjkdb8 1 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 this looks promising:http://screencrave.com/2009-10-26/matt-dam...join-true-grit/ Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 Barton Fink 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Blood Simple Remake in Chinese Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 UPDATED LIST! (I've seen Miller's crossing, Blood Simple, Burn After Reading and A Serious Man since the OP) Here are my list of Coen Brothers movies in the order that I love them....1. No Country For Old Men2. The Hudsucker Proxy3. The Big Lebowski4. Raising Arizona5. Miller's Crossing6. Burn After Reading7. Fargo8. Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?9. Barton Fink10. The Lady Killers11. Intolerable Cruelty12. A Serious Man13. Blood Simple14. The Man Who Wasn't ThereI've only seen A Serious Man one time, so it's almost certainly getting an unfair rating. I've now seen Miller's Crossing three times, and it's pretty high on my list. Blood Simple seems like the Coen's first movie, not in a good way. Link to post Share on other sites
frautotenkinder 1,025 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Watched No Country this weekend, getting ready for True Grit.What a fantastic, fantastic movie. I love all of it. I love the scenery, how big the environment feels. I loved Tommy Lee Jones' face, all craggy and personality and just t-h-e-r-e. I love the small bits of humor, as well as the horror that Bell (Jones) has for violence and killing.Yes, Anton Chigurh is as catchy as a pop song, catchy as Satan, but this movie didn't let me forget the toll all of this blood and loss was going to take. Link to post Share on other sites
frautotenkinder 1,025 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Serious Man and True GritSerious Man really held up for me. I know the Coens get knocked sometimes for excessive character torture--but I felt a general affection for Larry Gopnik. He has a terrible time of it, but the character keeps struggling toward hope and understanding, and still has friends and family at the end of the movie.True GritI really, really liked it. I think it'll be in my top five of the year. general structure, but no plot This is definitely the most straightforward of any Coen Brothers movie I can think of. I mean, have you ever tried to describe the plot of Lebowski? True Grit has a beginning, a middle and an end. It's verse-chorus-verse, and I mean that as a compliment. They managed to make a movie that probably has the standard page 17 conflict, but is still beautifully shot by Roger Deakins, and has all the fantastic language that lets me know I'm in another time and place. Link to post Share on other sites
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