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I really didn't mind the washburn trade at all. They didn't give up much (compared to what TO was asking for RH) I don't think French is gonna be the next Smoltz, although i'm hoping Washburn does the same thing Alexander did in 84.I was super impressed with Porcello last night, he definately made the nay-sayers question themselves and I believe this kid has a very bright future. I'm happy the tigers are looking to keep him long term instead of using him as a bargaining chip to aquire an old guy who might have a couple years left.I agree with the hitting thing, we really need a bat in the lineup. Maybe CG coming back will be the spark the club needs. The price at the trade deadline was WAY too much to add a corner infielder. Since they weren't putting Inge on the DL maybe they could've kept that quiet. I think the fact that EVERYBODY knew they were looking for a 3rd baseman to let BI rest a bit might have drove the price up that much more. Regardless of that tho, a strong hitter was gonna cost them anyway.BTW, i was upset that they didn't let RP come out for the 9th last night. His pitch count under 100, his stuff was amazing and putting FR in the game still scares the hell out of me. Not to mention, he was well overdue to blow a save. I just thought the kid deserved to go the distance. Its too bad that after the incredible performance, he doesn't get the win.

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i'm so glad the bats woke up tonight....i wish we would've taken a closer at the TD tho, i don't know if i can ride the rodney rollercoaster much longer.

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i'm so glad the bats woke up tonight....i wish we would've taken a closer at the TD tho, i don't know if i can ride the rodney rollercoaster much longer.
I don't get why people want to get rid of Rodney or wanted them to get a closer at the trade deadline. Do you know how many teams and fans would be content with having their closer blow their first save in the month of August. All of them I suspect except for Detroit. There is not one closer in the league right now with 7 or more saves that has not blown at least one save. Many have more than 1. Actually 34 closers with 7 or more saves and all have blown saves and 6 have 1 blown save and Rodney is one of them. Why on earth would the Tigers get a closer at the trade deadline? Especially since I believe at the trade deadline he was the only closer with 7 or more saves without a blown save. He might make it interesting but his job is to close the game out, and he has done that at a 96% clip. Nothing at all wrong with that part of this team.
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he makes it way tooooo interesting for my liking. especially when he's in a non-save situation. His era is kind of high, he walks alot of batters, although his so/bb ratio is only 2/1, i think it could be better for a closer. I've always had a problem when they put him in a game, unfortunately, i don't think we have a better option. sure he's getting the job done, it's just not at all pretty.

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he makes it way tooooo interesting for my liking. especially when he's in a non-save situation. His era is kind of high, he walks alot of batters, although his so/bb ratio is only 2/1, i think it could be better for a closer. I've always had a problem when they put him in a game, unfortunately, i don't think we have a better option. sure he's getting the job done, it's just not at all pretty.
Closers don't get graded on prettiness, they get graded on getting saves in anyway they can at he has done that. No GM or manager would ever think of pulling a guy who has blown one save all season because he doesn't look pretty. Baseball is about results and nothing else.
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i'm sure that leyland gets the same sinking feeling that most fans do when rodney enters the game. The guy just makes everyone nervous. I don't know how jim's heart can take it.I'm not picking on the guy btw, i'm glad he's getting the job done. His numbers are less than stellar tho, even for a closer with the exception of his sv %.i hope that seeing how well maggs is hitting the ball now is something that will be a factor down the stretch. I'm thinking he may be out of his slump, but time will tell. I think the time off did him some good.

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Another late inning win for the Tigers tonight. If they go 10/9 over their final 19 ames, then MIN an CWS have to go 17/1 to pass Detroit.It ain't a lock just yet. If Verlander, Jackson, and Porcello can hit the post season with some momentum then anyone facing the Tigers are going to have to worry.

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9Thank god we got Cleveland this week.and just for the record. I said I was not happy with the Washburn pick up. He was the last thing we needed. I mean I didn't think he was going to get injured but him losing all but one game was expected. This guy thrives when he has no pressure on him. His playoff stats are horrendous and his stats when in a race are just as bad. He is just one of those guys who doesn't like to draw attention to himself.So it should be Justin, Jackson, and Porcello for the playoffs and Robertson when needed if he can continue to maintain what he has done recently. At this point, if Wash was not injured, I don't think he gets in the playoff rotation.Some "fans" around here say they need to choke because they will get embarrassed in the playoffs and it's better to just not go. People are stupid. Not that I think they can beat the Yankees, but many thought the same thing in 06 and we all know what happened. Looking at my first post, I said 77 wins and possibly riding the cellar all year. Instead they have been in 1st since May 10th. Nothing more fun than watching meaningful games in Sept.

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i don't know what i thought of the washburn trade, i mean, at first i thought it may have been a good trade on paper, but i didn't think we needed to add to the rotation (although, by all accounts we didn't give up too much). I really don't understand why they would've picked up somebody who they knew was injured, from what i've heard, this has been a persistant injury all year. (there is nothing wrong with a girl who listens to sportstalk radio constantly). with that in mind, it's was only a matter of time before his knee completely went.i wish they would've picked up huff b/f the TD. The fact they have him down the stretch but not for the playoffs is sad. He's definately proving to be a decent bat that can be a good p/h option.good to see nate have a decent outing last weekend. they definately need a 4th starter for now, hopefully he can continue to stay healthy and help out. I'd love to see them go to a 3 man rotation right now. I don't get the concept of MLB "babying" pitchers nowadays. 5 man rotations and limiting pitch counts is absurd, honestly. i see the reasoning behind it, but when you look at the greats of yesterday and the longevity of them, it makes me wonder why they would be trying to hold them back. Complete games are things of the past, its amazingly rare to see a pitcher go a full game, no matter how great he's throwing. With the advance in training methods, i would think pitchers would be more inclined to last longer, not have to rest as much and still be better.

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I was just watching the replay of this game and watching Delmon Young point and yell at his pitcher for throwing at Everett which in turn made Bondo throw at Young was priceless.

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At this rate I am going to just say that they really don't deserve to get in. This team has yet to show any urgency. It's like 06 all over again except this year when they lose the division on the last day, they won't be the wildcard.

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the question is...if there is a chance of a tie going into tomorrow...do we pitch JV Sunday or do we save him for the chance of a playoff and start porcello tomorrow? hopefully greinke tries to state his case for the cy young in his last start against the twinkies and figaro makes the start of his LIFE. that way this will be a non-issue

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Wow when the shit hits the fan it really hits the fan.I don't feel like being a whiny fan and I am in no way qualified to be a manager or GM but this team has put me on LFT the last 2 weeks. I mean I guess nothing that happened this last week should be a surprise. It's not like our bats have been hot at all this season so it really is no surprise that the Tigers performance at the plate has been pathetic. Have they choked? I guess, but it depends on your definition of choke. My biggest complaint, whether valid or not, is that there seems to have been absolutely no sense of urgency the last 7 games.Going into game 4 against Minny was the time to go out and play your damn heart out and get the win. Then you clinch the division and can rest players all you want and set up your rotation for the Yankees on Wednesday. Instead you go out and do nothing. You sit one of your biggest clutch hitters, Polanco, so he can rest. Rest? He can rest the next day. You need to win. There were two occasions where his replacement, Santiago, was up to bat with the bases loaded and did nada. I am not saying it is a given that Polly would have come through, but come on, biggest game of the season and you have bases loaded and your down...Polly or Santiago. The choice is simple. Leyland said that Santiago was better against Baker than Polly. Oh it showed when he went like 0-3 against him that day and twice had runners in scoring position. I have issue with some of the remarks after the games this weekend. Friday and Saturday there was much said about how this was no big deal and we will get them tomorrow, etc. Then yesterday Verlander does what he does and everyone is like, oh this was so fun, I liked it. Now we got a chance to go into Minny and win a play-in. HELLO, it's fun? Are you crazy, you had a 7.5 game lead less than a month ago. You had opportunities to rest and not even play Verlander on Sunday. You think you are just going to go into the Dome of Hell and win it? Now we got Cabby. Poor Cabby is not handling the situation to well. On top of going 0-11 with a walk this final series, he has gone and got himself in trouble that resulted in Dombrowski having to pick him up in jail at 7am on Saturday morning. So much wrong with this.1. He started the night by hanging out at the Townsend drinking all night with the players from the White Sox. 2. Gets home around 6am drunk (.26 on the breathalyzer, good thing he didn't get caught driving I guess) and got into a fight with his wife and she kicked him out so he got put in jail for the morning.3. His face is all cut up from the fight.This is not what we need going into tomorrow night. Bad enough we have to rely on a good but young Rick Porcello, but our best bat is on a downward spiral to some big problems. I don't expect much from them tomorrow. Of course I want them to win and get in and at least get a chance to play against the Yankees. We could have Verlander for games 2 and 5(if necessary) so anything can happen but you never know what team you will get.

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Ugh it is getting ugly. Now there are reports that Cabby was warned by the organization for a incident at a bar back in August. On top of that the organization told reporters at one point on Saturday that a dog scratched his face and that they didn't tell the team anything as well. It's coming in fast and it all don't look good. Hoping this was an isolated incident but it seems not to be and the organization has been trying to cover it up.

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Tucking FigersHow do you get doubled off of First with one out and a man on Third?How do you let a goddamn ball get past you in the outfield for a Triple?How do you NOT turn a goddamn double play when you're PLAYING AT DOUBLE PLAY DEPTH AND YOU GET A GODDAMN HARD GROUNDER TO THE RIGHT OF GODDAMN SECOND BASE?!?!?!?

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