brvheart 1,752 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20259843,00.htmlThis list tilted me hard. It appears to have been compiled by a 3rd grade class if you ask me.Clint Eastwood is like #20 and Peter Jackson is #2. I want to cut a bitch.BOTH Michael Mann and Quentin Tarantino rated below Ridley Scott. WHAT!?! Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Well, #1 was basically undisputable. I would have been shocked if it was anyone else.I don't have the patience to click through 25 pictures right now...I just skipped to the end. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 FU double post. Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 It's an awkward list for the following reasons1. About a quarter of the directors listed write their own material - How do you compare Quentin or the Cohens or Paul Thomas Anderson to a guy like Speilberg or Scorcese who don't write their own stuff2. How much do you credit the past versus the future? Rob Reiner looked like a sure bet after like 8 awesome movies in a row and hasn't done anything as good in the past decade. It's like how do you compare Ken Griffey Jr to Albert Pujols - they are in different stages of their careers and future performance isn't necessarily determined by what you've already done3. A lot of guys like Cameron and Mann don't work as much as Speilberg or Scorcese or Ridley ScottThe list needs to be better definedIf I were to go to a movie and all I knew was the name of a director my faves areQuentin, Tony Scott actually over Ridley Scott, Scorces and Clint until he drops dead Link to post Share on other sites
RonBurgundy 0 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 some good ones they failed to mention:werner herzogkyoshi kurosawaalfonso cuarónmichel gondrydavid lynchdavid cronenbergrichard linklaterjim jarmuschwes andersonnoah baumbachchan-wook parkharmony korinealso, although im not a fan of his recent movies, anyone else surprised at the lack of love for woody allen? Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 some good ones they failed to mention:werner herzogkyoshi kurosawaalfonso cuarónmichel gondrydavid lynchdavid cronenbergrichard linklaterjim jarmuschwes andersonnoah baumbachchan-wook parkharmony korinealso, although im not a fan of his recent movies, anyone else surprised at the lack of love for woody allen?Considering that EW is a notorious fluff-rag and whore to the industry, it's not surprising that every single name on that list was ignored. Be thankful Michael Bay isn't in the top 25 (he isn't, right? Right?)Woody Allen movies have sucked for a good long time now, some (ok, me) might say forever. Someone (not me) should post the list, I'm interested to know if Coppola made it but not interested enough to go clicking through all those pages. Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Considering that EW is a notorious fluff-rag and whore to the industry, it's not surprising that every single name on that list was ignored. Be thankful Michael Bay isn't in the top 25 (he isn't, right? Right?)Woody Allen movies have sucked for a good long time now, some (ok, me) might say forever. Someone (not me) should post the list, I'm interested to know if Coppola made it but not interested enough to go clicking through all those pages.Coppola wasn't on there - isn't he a winemaker now - i bet if there was a top 100 list his daughter would be on it and not him - he's barely been working - 1 film this millenium Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 I still don't understand how anyone with a job in entertainment journalism could compile this list. I'm going to be pissed all day that I'm stuck working at a fast food restaurant in IA, when idiots like this have cool jobs in LA. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 25 Jon Favreau Too high24 Pedro Almodovar ok23 Paul Greengrass ok22 Paul Thomas Anderson way too low21 Ang Lee ok/slightly too high20 Ron Howard ok19 Clint Eastwood WAY too low, top 5 for sure.18 Danny Boyle too high17 Darren Aronofsky too high16 Zack Snyder shouldn't be on list15 Sam Raimi WAY too high14 Judd Apatow shouldn't be on list13 Tim Burton ok12 David Fincher ok11 Guillermo Del Toro ok10 Joel and Ethan Coen too low, but their strength is writing9 James Cameron Way too high8 Michael Mann Too low, top 57 Quentin Taratino Too low, top 56 Ridley Scott WAY too high5 Steven Soderbergh WAY too high4 Christopher Nolan Too high3 Martin Scorsese ok, should be 1 or 22 Peter Jackson WAY too high1 Steven Spielberg ok Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Any bets on total gross box office being a HUGE OVERWHELMING criteria in compiling that POS list? Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Any bets on total gross box office being a HUGE OVERWHELMING criteria in compiling that POS list?Well there are two different issues1. If I have a commercial property for a big movie - which director will it cost me the most to get? Which director would mean the biggest box office?2. If I have a great script and gave any director carte blanche - who would make the best movie? Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 OMG, I' mso tilted. I went through that whole list, recorded opinions about each one, and now it got lost. Here's a summeryCoppolla should be 2, it's a ****ing joke he's not on the listWoody Allen>Judd ApatovWhere's david lynch?Scorcese should be number 1 easyPTA should be top 10 easyWes Anderson should be on this list instead of fat headed favereuThe Coen bros and QT are my favorite living dirrectorsTerrance Mallik would be in my personal top 10, but I can't imagine many here would agreeSpike jonze not being on the list is a joke, he's a better fincher. Gus Van Sant is an odd ommision too. Peter jackson number 2 is a jokeGus Van Sant is a strange ommisionand, one more time, WHERE THE **** IS COPPOLLA. WHo cares if he's retired, he's alive, isn't he? He's directed 3 of the top 20 ( maybe top 10 ) movies in history. Only Scorsese has a comparable resume. It's shit like this that leads to Sean Penn winning Mickey's oscar. Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I love Spike Jonze but look at his imdb he's hardly what you would call prolific and, one more time, WHERE THE **** IS COPPOLLA. WHo cares if he's retired, he's alive, isn't he? He's directed 3 of the top 20 ( maybe top 10 ) movies in history. Only Scorsese has a comparable resume. It's shit like this that leads to Sean Penn winning Mickey's oscar.pretty sure it said active Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I love Spike Jonze but look at his imdb he's hardly what you would call prolificJon Farverau Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Jon Farverauagreed a terrible choice but now that he's got the iron man franchise he'll be working a lot more and you could argue that he's on the riseSpike Jonze just seems to take a lot of time off or is working on videos or something Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Jon Favreau lolI immediately stopped taking this list seriously... Link to post Share on other sites
CindyLou 11 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Of the directors on the list, these are the ones where I am interested in what they are doing before I know what they're doing, but I won't necessarily see the movie just because they're directing (if that makes any sense at all):Clint Eastwood Darren Aronofsky Tim Burton Michael Mann Steven Spielberg I will see any movie that these directors make:Joel and Ethan Coen Quentin Tarantino Martin ScorseseHaving said that, I haven't actually seen all the Coen brothers movies yet. (Blood Simple, Miller's Crossing, and Barton Fink) Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Having said that, I haven't actually seen all the Coen brothers movies yet. (Blood Simple, Miller's Crossing, and Barton Fink)all three well worth seeing Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Having said that, I haven't actually seen all the Coen brothers movies yet. (Blood Simple, Miller's Crossing, and Barton Fink)Miller's crossing is one of their very best, and barton fink is at the top of their second tier, IMO Link to post Share on other sites
LadyGrey 6 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 23 Paul Greengrass ok All he's done is Bourne, and I'm not a fan of the shaky camera style. Bump him off my list.22 Paul Thomas Anderson way too low Agree, top 3 for me19 Clint Eastwood WAY too low, top 5 for sure. Top 10 maybe, not top 5.15 Sam Raimi WAY too high Shouldn't be on the list at all.14 Judd Apatow shouldn't be on list Seriously, ridiculous inclusion10 Joel and Ethan Coen too low, but their strength is writing Their writing and directing are both ridiculously strong. They should be top 3 easily.9 James Cameron Way too high Shouldn't even be on the list in my opinion8 Michael Mann Too low, top 5 Strongly disagree - Miami Vice? Ali? What has he done that you consider so great?4 Christopher Nolan Too high Agree, Memento and Dark Knight are good movies but he shouldn't be top 153 Martin Scorsese ok, should be 1 or 2 I don't think he is top 2, okay with 32 Peter Jackson WAY too high Definitely1 Steven Spielberg ok Easy winner really - consistently excellent work, created a good dozen classic movies I added some thoughts to your list, overall I agree with you mostly.Shall we all make our own top 15 or 20 active directors lists and then compile an aggregate list from that? We can base it on actual directing merit rather than box office crap that puts directors of generic 'epics' like superhero movies in the top 10. Link to post Share on other sites
LadyGrey 6 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Miller's crossing is one of their very best, and barton fink is at the top of their second tier, IMOI still have to watch Miller's Crossing, looking forward to it.Of what I've seen:1. Fargo2. O Brother Where Art Thou?3. No Country For Old Men4. Barton Fink5. Burn After Reading6. Big Lebowski7. Hudsucker ProxyI've seen Intolerable Cruelty too, but I don't count it... it's not Coen enough. Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I guess I am a nerd because I really like LOTR and what Peter Jackson did with them. I don't know the rest of his resume though. But I do agree that is too high. Link to post Share on other sites
CindyLou 11 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 1. Fargo2. O Brother Where Art Thou?3. No Country For Old Men4. Barton Fink5. Burn After Reading6. Big Lebowski7. Hudsucker Proxy1. No Country For Old Men2. The Big Lebowski3. Hudsucker Proxy4. O Brother Where Art Thou?5. Burn After Reading6. Raising Arizona7. Fargo8. The Man Who Wasn't ThereThe Ladykillers and Intolerable Cruelty didn't happen. I'm sure Fargo is the one that will get the most disagreement. I watched it when it first came out and thought, "meh." Then it got such high critical acclaim and I thought, "really?" Then ten (?) years later I decided I needed to watch it again and after watching it a second time I thought, "meh." It just didn't resonate with me for some reason.Michael Mann - The Last of the Mohicans, Heat, The Insider, Ali, Collateral. That's a pretty good five movie stretch.My directors list:1. Quentin Tarantino2. Coen Brothers3. Martin Scorsese4. Steven Spielberg5. Clint Eastwood6. Tim Burton7. Michael Mann8. Darren Aronofsky (would be higher except he made one of the worst movies I've ever seen: The Fountain. And I haven't seen The Wrestler yet. I guess he's this high almost entirely on the movie Pi, which I think is the movie that got me to start seeking out non-mainstream movies, so that's a big deal to me.) Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralGeeWhiz 0 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'm surprised that PT Anderson made the list. He deserves to be higher than the 22nd spot. I can see Spielberg being number one, even though I think he peaked a while back. Judd Apatow is funny, but I don't think he should be in the top 25. Oh and Clint as low as 19 is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I've seen Intolerable Cruelty too, but I don't count it... it's not Coen enough. Intolerable Cruelty didn't happen.I like that movie for one simple scene:Miles Massey: All right, so much for the ice-breakers. What are you after, Freddy?[takes a drink of water]Freddy Bender: My client is prepared to settle for 50 percent of the marital assets.[Miles spits out some water]Miles Massey: Why only 50, Freddy? Why not a hundred? While we're dreaming, why not 150? Are you familiar with "Kershner"?Freddy Bender: "Kershner" does not apply.Miles Massey: Bring this to trial, we'll see if "Kershner" applies.Rex: What's "Kershner"?Miles Massey: Please, let me handle this.Freddy Bender: "Kershner" was in Kentucky.Miles Massey: "Kershner" was in Kentucky?Freddy Bender: "Kershner" was in Kentucky.Miles Massey: All right, Freddy, forget "Kershner". What's your bottom line?Freddy Bender: Primary residence, 30 percent of remaining assets.Miles Massey: What, are you nuts? Have you forgotten "Kershner"? Link to post Share on other sites
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