jmbreslin 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Holy mother of hell, someone please put an end to this...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)SB (t3140)BB (t5111)Hero (t5249)Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 9. Hero raises to t500, 1 fold, BB raises to t1600, Hero raises to t5249, BB calls t3511 (All-In).Flop: (t10460) 6, J, 7(2 players, 1 all-in)Turn: (t10460) A(2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t10460) 5(2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: t10322Results in white below:BB has 7h 7c (three of a kind, sevens). Hero has 9c 9d (one pair, nines). Outcome: BB wins t10322. Hero wins t138. Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Don't play Turbos man..Those things are such a crap shoot..Play a standard sng and variance won't be as bad Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I am playing standard, man, these are regular $1.20 STTs! Unless you weren't talking to me... Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I am playing standard, man, these are regular $1.20 STTs! Unless you weren't talking to me...Yeah I was talking to Simo, I only read the first page Link to post Share on other sites
YBravo 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Great quote from Kristy Gazes while playing with her in the $26 HORSEonysworld: please tell how to play razzKristy Gazes: nobody really knows Link to post Share on other sites
AKProdigy 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Turbo's are higher variance, but in the end it doesn't really make a major difference (i think). The additional $/hr makes it advantageous for me personally. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 3rd time in the last 2 weeks I've made it to the final 2 tables of the O8B $1.10 donkfest...Out in 12th.. Out in 13th.. and tonight.. Out in 15th... I'm never FT'ing this MF'er, I swear to gawd. :icon_wall:AA35 and A234 both go down to the most modest of holding AIPF to seal the f'n deal.LFT Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I achieved a 18% ROI on $10-$50 SNGs over about 500 games, about 1.5yrs agoHaven't played them very seriously since but it seems the quality of competition is alot higher than it used be. From some responses, people think there still lots of fish. Is it a different network you play on? I think it's hard to achieve an ROI above 5% at decent buy in SNGs ($20+). Any comments? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 I achieved a 18% ROI on $10-$50 SNGs over about 500 games, about 1.5yrs agoHaven't played them very seriously since but it seems the quality of competition is alot higher than it used be. From some responses, people think there still lots of fish. Is it a different network you play on? I think it's hard to achieve an ROI above 5% at decent buy in SNGs ($20+). Any comments?In the turbos the variance is insanely high. You are forced to win several 60/40s or 50/50s or even 40/60s to win in general. By the bubble, the blinds are usually 100/200 at least, and you are often shoving Q8o UTG because you have 5xbb.I think that it's possible to get around 8% ROI in the turbos if you play very well.The problem with working it out is that it's easy to go 10 in a row without cashing, then get 1-1-3-2-1 in your next 5. You need such a huge sample that it's difficult to get anywhere realistic off a sample of less than 1k.In the normal speed games, I think 15% is still possible on the right sites at the right times, but generally 10% would be pretty much crushing them. Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 In the turbos the variance is insanely high. You are forced to win several 60/40s or 50/50s or even 40/60s to win in general. By the bubble, the blinds are usually 100/200 at least, and you are often shoving Q8o UTG because you have 5xbb.I think that it's possible to get around 8% ROI in the turbos if you play very well.The problem with working it out is that it's easy to go 10 in a row without cashing, then get 1-1-3-2-1 in your next 5. You need such a huge sample that it's difficult to get anywhere realistic off a sample of less than 1k.In the normal speed games, I think 15% is still possible on the right sites at the right times, but generally 10% would be pretty much crushing them.How many BI do you reckon should be in your BR to play them? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 How many BI do you reckon should be in your BR to play them?For turbos I think at least 30 if you don't want to move down at all, although I had a $200 downswing playing $11 turbos a while back, and I was playing good.For normal speed games I'd say about 20+.If you're willing to move up/down liberally then 15-20 will do, but you will find yourself shooting up and down limits very regularly. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Here's another one to add to my collection. This is quickly turning into my own personal bad beat forum...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)BB (t1780)UTG (t1100)MP1 (t1160)Hero (t1360)CO (t3715)Button (t2255)SB (t2130)Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , . 2 folds, Hero raises to t150, CO calls t150, 3 folds.Flop: (t375) , , (2 players)Hero bets t200, CO raises to t400, Hero calls t200.Turn: (t1175) (2 players)Hero bets t300, CO raises to t600, Hero raises to t810, CO calls t210.River: (t2795) (2 players)Final Pot: t2795Results:Hero has Qh As (straight, ace high). CO has Td Kh (full house, kings full of tens). Outcome: CO wins t2795.This may be my worst beat ever. I ran the numbers and I was a 90% favorite on the turn... Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 I seen what you did there Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Umm, what do you mean? Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Umm, what do you mean?Nothing, just found the Ks icon funny. I'm easily amused.Congrats on the 1k post btw Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Been dipping into the Guiness again? Link to post Share on other sites
YBravo 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 WTF?Full Tilt Poker Game #3844340002: $15,000 Guarantee (28456976), Table 9 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:26:49 ET - 2007/10/13Seat 1: Ko-Ko84 (2,660)Seat 2: mamasse38 (3,235)Seat 3: CardJedi (2,415)Seat 4: Heidi_19 (18,200)Seat 5: GoNads (2,900)Seat 6: YVirus (725)Seat 7: spades42011 (8,325)Seat 8: DaBruns (2,960)Seat 9: Yoshinoya (7,344)mamasse38 posts the small blind of 30CardJedi posts the big blind of 60The button is in seat #1*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to YVirus [Ah Qs]Heidi_19 foldsGoNads calls 60YVirus raises to 725, and is all inspades42011 foldsDaBruns calls 725Yoshinoya calls 725Ko-Ko84 foldsmamasse38 foldsCardJedi foldsGoNads calls 665*** FLOP *** [Kh Jh Jd]GoNads checksDaBruns bets 2,235, and is all inYoshinoya foldsGoNads foldsDaBruns shows [Th As]YVirus shows [Ah Qs]Uncalled bet of 2,235 returned to DaBruns*** TURN *** [Kh Jh Jd] [2c]*** RIVER *** [Kh Jh Jd 2c] [3h]DaBruns shows a pair of JacksYVirus shows a pair of JacksYVirus wins the pot (2,990) with a pair of Jacks*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2,990 | Rake 0Board: [Kh Jh Jd 2c 3h]Seat 1: Ko-Ko84 (button) didn't bet (folded)Seat 2: mamasse38 (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 3: CardJedi (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 4: Heidi_19 didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: GoNads folded on the FlopSeat 6: YVirus showed [Ah Qs] and won (2,990) with a pair of JacksSeat 7: spades42011 didn't bet (folded)Seat 8: DaBruns showed [Th As] and lost with a pair of JacksSeat 9: Yoshinoya folded on the Flop Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 sup tourney donks.haven't been around here in a while.i assume you guys are keeping everything clean.don't be afraid to pm me/report any ghey threads. Link to post Share on other sites
Danny Dingleberry 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Nothing, just found the Ks icon funny. I'm easily amused.Congrats on the 1k post btwhaha... now that you mention it, it is quite funny. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 don't be afraid to pm me/report any ghey threads.I think this thread is Ghey.Or if it isn't, it at least has potential. Link to post Share on other sites
gary21212121 0 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 ;lasdkjfa;sdkfj these hands piss me off... JUST WANT TO SEND A BIG THANK YOU OUT TO FULLTILT FOR GIVING ME THE WORST CARD IN THE DECK ON THE TURN... TNX FAGGOTSFull Tilt Poker Game #3889538995: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (29607205), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:28:35 ET - 2007/10/18Seat 1: alohagirl (995)Seat 2: fdllove (1,555)Seat 3: Annuitize (1,670)Seat 4: HOMA1975 (1,390)Seat 5: Hardin624 (1,335)Seat 6: snaketakes (1,510)Seat 7: Gary212121 (1,460)Seat 8: shannaridley (1,860)Seat 9: danw416 (1,725)Gary212121 posts the small blind of 20shannaridley posts the big blind of 40The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Gary212121 [9s Js]danw416 calls 40alohagirl foldsfdllove calls 40Annuitize foldsHOMA1975 foldsHardin624 foldssnaketakes has 15 seconds left to actsnaketakes calls 40Gary212121 calls 20shannaridley has 15 seconds left to actshannaridley checks*** FLOP *** [Qs 3s Jh]Gary212121 checksshannaridley bets 120danw416 foldsfdllove foldssnaketakes calls 120Gary212121 has 15 seconds left to actGary212121 raises to 560shannaridley foldssnaketakes has 15 seconds left to actsnaketakes calls 440*** TURN *** [Qs 3s Jh] [9c]Gary212121 has 15 seconds left to actGary212121 bets 860, and is all insnaketakes calls 860Gary212121 shows [9s Js]snaketakes shows [Kd Ts]*** RIVER *** [Qs 3s Jh 9c] [8c]Gary212121 shows two pair, Jacks and Ninessnaketakes shows a straight, King highsnaketakes wins the pot (3,160) with a straight, King high Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 River: (t2795) (2 players)Final Pot: t2795Results:Hero has Qh As (straight, ace high). CO has Td Kh (full house, kings full of tens). Outcome: CO wins t2795.This may be my worst beat ever. I ran the numbers and I was a 90% favorite on the turn... If that's true, then I envy you... Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Well, I have only been playing since April...But, yes, it is my worst beat to date. Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Well, I have only been playing since April...But, yes, it is my worst beat to date.Be prepared for much worse. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 Full Tilt Poker Game #3895934440: $24,000 Guarantee (29139439), Table 106 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:12:19 ET - 2007/10/18Seat 1: PLZ COME AGAIN (2,895)Seat 2: pattimac (1,630)Seat 3: wiggum26 (6,575)Seat 4: bevo_bux (2,940)Seat 5: TrippleAAA5 (7,930)Seat 6: TPaur (2,925)Seat 7: Simo123 (2,850)Seat 8: Foenich (2,915)Seat 9: BossPlaya024 (2,955)wiggum26 posts the small blind of 20bevo_bux posts the big blind of 40The button is in seat #2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Simo123 [9h 8h]TrippleAAA5 has 15 seconds left to actTrippleAAA5 foldsTPaur foldsSimo123 raises to 120Foenich foldsBossPlaya024 has 15 seconds left to actBossPlaya024 calls 120PLZ COME AGAIN foldspattimac foldswiggum26 has 15 seconds left to actwiggum26 foldsbevo_bux folds*** FLOP *** [Jh 8d Td]Simo123 checksBossPlaya024 checks*** TURN *** [Jh 8d Td] [As]Simo123 checksBossPlaya024 checks*** RIVER *** [Jh 8d Td As] [2d]Simo123 checksBossPlaya024 has 15 seconds left to actBossPlaya024 bets 220Simo123 calls 220*** SHOW DOWN ***BossPlaya024 shows [6d 6h] a pair of SixesSimo123 shows [9h 8h] a pair of EightsSimo123 wins the pot (740) with a pair of EightsBossPlaya024: wtffWhy is he surprised? Link to post Share on other sites
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