Ethnic Profiling

[ajs510 122]

That's a load of crap. Remember Richard Reid, the "shoe bomber". Was he Middle Eastern or Arabic? I guess you must have forgotten about Timothy McVeigh or Terry Nichols as well. I guess they weren't "Johnny White" either. You are either incredibly ignorant or have a selective memory.

The fact remains that for every terrorist that *isn't* a Muslim there are at least 5,000 terrorists that are. Profiling may be wrong, but it still works. For instance, this cornfed white boy actually does drive around with his dog in his pickup truck.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

There is a reason. It's because we're better than you, but there are less of us since we're smart and don't procreate like animals.

who you calling an animal? Just because they can't afford cable or condoms in the hood, should that mean that they can't have recreational sex Shawn Kemp style? No.Oh, and being good with money doesn't make you better than me or them, just smarter.

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

There is a reason. It's because we're better than you, but there are less of us since we're smart and don't procreate like animals.

Your loss

[speedz99 145]

who you calling an animal

You.

Just because they can't afford cable or condoms in the hood, should that mean that they can't have recreational sex Shawn Kemp style? No.

I honestly believe that if a woman has over 4 children and is on welfare her tubes should be tied by court order.

Oh, and being good with money doesn't make you better than me or them, just smarter.

That's just one of the reasons why I'm better than you and them.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

The fact remains that for every terrorist that *isn't* a Muslim there are at least 5,000 terrorists that are. Profiling may be wrong, but it still works. For instance, this cornfed white boy actually does drive around with his dog in his pickup truck.

Very true.I say profile everyone.I have a slight weigh problem, you don't think when I hit the Sizzler buffett, the Haitian girl refilling the cherry tomatoes doesn't run screaming to the manager that Jabba the Hut just showed up and tis gonna tear through half the spread? Of she does. Does it hurt? Sometimes. Is it untrue? Nope. I beat that thing up until someone from the wait staff pulls a fake fire alarm to get my fat *** out of there.To quote Barry Sobel, the great comedian.You're right, blacks don't run fastYou're right, Asians dont have lots of photo equipmentYou're right, Puerto Ricans don't carry switch bladesYou're right, Jews aren't good with money

[ohen 0]

From Walter Williams, editorialist and economics professor.Stupid Airport SecurityA MINORITY VIEWBY WALTER E. WILLIAMSRELEASE: WEDNESDAY, APRIL 6, 2005, AND THEREAFTER STUPID AIRPORT SECURITY( He is African American)For most of my professional life, I've traveled frequently -- sometimes boarding a commercial flight two, three or four times a month for lucrative speaking engagements. Over the past three years, the frequency has fallen to an average of once or twice a year. The reason is simple. I don't want to be arrested or detained for questioning some of the senseless airport security procedures. Don't get me wrong. I'm for security but against stupidity. Let's look at some of it starting off with a hypothetical question.You're a detective. A woman reports a rape. How would you go about finding the perpetrator? Would you confine your search to males or would you include females as well?You say, "Williams, that would be stupid to include females!" But not if Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta were your supervisor. You might be ordered to investigate females and males as possible suspects to avoid committing the politically incorrect sin of sex profiling.With regard to airport security, Mineta said, "While the security procedures are not based on the race, ethnicity, religion or gender of passengers, we also want to assure that in practice, the system does not disproportionately select members of any particular minority group." That means Americans who fit no terrorist profile -- mothers with children, blind and disabled people, elderly couples -- are frisked, groped and hassled. What's even more stupid is that pilots and flight attendants face similar screening. Here's my question to you: If a pilot is intent on crashing a plane into a building, does he need to carry anything on board to do it?On several occasions, having gone through screening without setting off any alarms, I've been pulled aside for additional screening. Imagine that you're there with a Transportation Security Administration (TSA) supervisor and I'm being subjected to additional screening. You offer him a bet whereby if Williams is discovered to be in possession of something that endangers security -- a knife, gun or bomb -- you'll pay him $5,000, and if I'm not, he'll pay you $100. Do you think he'll take your offer? I'm betting he wouldn't.What about the TSA confiscation of "dangerous" personal items such as tweezers, hat pins, sewing scissors, knitting needles, etc.? I hope I'm not giving the TSA ideas, but I've watched a number of television shows featuring supermax prisons like California's Pelican Bay. Among the items prisoners fashion into lethal weapons are ballpoint pens, belts, eyeglass temples, glass containers and toothbrushes, all of which the TSA permits on airplanes. So what's the TSA's reasoning for allowing ballpoint pens on planes but not tweezers?Most hijackings and recent terrorist acts have been committed by young Muslim extremists. That's not to say that all or nearly all Muslims pose a threat to security. But if one is looking for potential terrorists, the larger proportion of resources should be spent screening Muslim passengers. Screening the blind and disabled, mothers and children, and senior citizens is not going to have much of a payoff unless the goal is not to have tweezers or a G.I. Joe doll holding a rifle on the plane.If I were a terrorist, I'd appreciate the fact that the TSA treats every passenger as having an equal likelihood of being a security threat. Fewer resources would be available to screen me. When law-abiding people are the subject of profiling, it's unfair, and they are insulted -- and rightfully so. The true source of the injustice they face are those responsible for making "Muslim" near synonymous with "terrorism."Even if I don't fly commercial anymore, I care about the TSA's waste of resources. There are potential terrorist targets in many areas such as ports, railroads and infrastructure, but roughly 90 percent of TSA's funding is spent on airports operating under the assumption that every passenger and every bag have an equal likelihood of being a security threat. That's stupid.

The fact that Mr. Williams is black doesn not automatically lend credence about his views on racial profiling in airports. To many African-Americans, Walter Williams comes from the same school of conservative thought as Justice Thomas, Armstong Williams and JC Watts. A vast majority of African Americans, who whom whom Mr. Williams is, don't subsribe to his views and some go so far as to label him as an "Uncle Tom." So please don't imply-- by pointing out what race he belongs to-- that his opinions are shared by African Americans or other minorities in this country.

[Habs Fan 0]

Good work boys

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

I honestly believe that if a woman has over 4 children and is on welfare her tubes should be tied by court order.

I actually think you mean this one. haha

The fact that Mr. Williams is black doesn not automatically lend credence about his views on racial profiling in airports. To many African-Americans, Walter Williams comes from the same school of conservative thought as Justice Thomas, Armstong Williams and JC Watts. A vast majority of African Americans, who whom whom Mr. Williams is, don't subsribe to his views and some go so far as to label him as an "Uncle Tom." So please don't imply-- by pointing out what race he belongs to-- that his opinions are shared by African Americans or other minorities in this country.

I heard a black guy call another black guy a nig*er once..on second thought, that may have been nigga

[speedz99 145]

I actually think you mean this one. haha

Funny you picked up on that...I did mean it.Also, I think Eskimos are smug.

[Habs Fan 0]

I honestly believe that if a woman has over 4 children and is on welfare her tubes should be tied by court order.

I guess that's one way to get rid of all those pesky other races.

[ohen 0]

The fact remains that for every terrorist that *isn't* a Muslim there are at least 5,000 terrorists that are.

?????? So you believe more than 99.9 percent of the terrorists are Muslim?

[Randy Reed 0]

The fact that Mr. Williams is black doesn not automatically lend credence about his views on racial profiling in airports. To many African-Americans, Walter Williams comes from the same school of conservative thought as Justice Thomas, Armstong Williams and JC Watts. A vast majority of African Americans, who whom whom Mr. Williams is, don't subsribe to his views and some go so far as to label him as an "Uncle Tom." So please don't imply-- by pointing out what race he belongs to-- that his opinions are shared by African Americans or other minorities in this country.

Well, I didn't imply that all blacks agreed with him. You made the assumption, not me. I was just pointing out a fact. And yes, I am well aware of who he is. Tell me why you disagree with what he wrote. Or this for that matter.STUPID AIRPORT SECURITY IIHundreds of readers responded to last week's column about airport security. These were letters from Americans who fit no terrorist profile -- airline pilots, mothers traveling with children, disabled people, elderly and other law-abiding Americans -- and yet were frisked, groped and hassled. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) behaves as if all passengers and all baggage pose an equal security threat, and that's stupid, because not nearly all passengers and baggage pose a security threat. They've seized articles such as tweezers, toy soldiers, hat pins, sewing scissors and other items they deem as threatening to flight security.I've solved my problem with the TSA. They have their procedures, and I have mine. Mine include minimizing my exposure to stupidity. Therefore, where I used to board a commercial flight three or four times a month, over the last three years, I've reduced it to once, maybe twice, a year.Some of the letters reported more stupidity on behalf of the TSA than I imagined. I'll highlight some of them. One person wrote that he, his wife and son were stopped, questioned and searched at length by TSA and FBI officials. It turned out there was a terror alert for a person named Harry Smith (not the true name). The couple's 5-year-old son's name was also Harry Smith. How much brains do you think it requires for the FBI and TSA to immediately realize that their 5-year-old son was the wrong Harry Smith?Another writer wrote about his 88-year-old, hunched over, arthritis-ridden father, barely able to walk, being searched, questioned and scanned and, as a result, brought to tears. Airline pilots going through security are searched and asked to empty their pockets, even though they wear photo identification tags and the TSA accepts the fact that they're indeed pilots. Here's my question: If a pilot wanted to fly a plane into a building, would he need a weapon to do so?There's little threat of another 9-11 hijacking event. First, sky marshals are randomly assigned to flights. But more important than that is if a hijacking occurred, passengers, knowing they were being flown to their death, would subdue the hijackers. Giving them greater incentive to do so is the likelihood of an F-14 fighter jet flying up to shoot the plane down. The greater threat to airport security is the placement of a bomb onboard. The TSA practice of seizing harmless personal items from passengers is a waste of resources. Fortunately, the TSA now permits some items formerly prohibited, such as knitting needles, corkscrews and cigar cutters.Let's apply a bit of economic analysis to the TSA. There's little cost borne by the TSA for harassing passengers. Screeners have an eight-hour-a-day job. So if you have to wait in long lines, be harassed and miss your plane, what's it to them, considering the docile passenger response? Many Americans accept the TSA policy, saying that it makes them feel safer. I'd ask those Americans how much safer they would feel seeing an 88-year-old arthritic man, barely able to walk, given the treatment. Asking the question whether every passenger is a security threat is similar to a munitions manufacturer asking whether every hand grenade is good. A munitions manufacturer wouldn't pull the pin on every hand grenade to see if it was a dud. He'd devise a test, otherwise he'd bear huge costs by assuming each hand grenade had the equal probability of being a dud. Similarly, the TSA should devise a test to determine which passenger poses the higher probability of being a security threat. A good start might be to establish passenger characteristics of previous terrorist attacks.

[DonkSlayer 1]

?????? So you believe more than 99.9 percent of the terrorists are Muslim?

No, he means that for every 1 terrorist that isn't also a muslim, there are 5,000 terrorists that are also muslim.

[turd ferguson 1]

I wasn't even gonna bring the jews into this one, but now that you brought it up. There has to be a reason people try to exterminate them every 1000 years.

That's the only way to get their Jew Gold.

we're smart and don't procreate like animals.

Read: We can't get laid.

I actually think you mean this one. haha

I agree with that as well. Dead serious here.

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

?????? So you believe more than 99.9 percent of the Muslims are terrorists?

In keeping with the "things that make you look absolutely retarded in an argument" theme:Reading a statement and rushing to post about something that seems way off instead of checking to see if you just READ IT WRONG is pretty high on the "what-a-moron-o-meter".

[speedz99 145]

I guess that's one way to get rid of all those pesky other races.

1. this could just as easily be about white trash...you're obviously a racist.2. 4 kids still puts them above averageSeriously...the 5th kid and beyond are just sucking more and more welfare out of the system that we pay for. Then we all know that probably 75% of those extra kids will end up in jail being supported by our taxes once again.The abortion chapter was the best in Freakonomics.

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Randy, my response to Mr. Williams would be the original post in this thread.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

I guess that's one way to get rid of all those pesky other races.

or at least keep them as the minority.no way will they breed themselves to the top. not on my watchwhat were we talking about, oh yeah, terrorists.bomb every country back to the stone age where Patel, Mohammed, and Achman is the same as Jones, Smith, and Richards here.

[ajs510 122]

No, he means that for every 1 terrorist that isn't also a muslim, there are 5,000 terrorists that are also muslim.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

?????? So you believe more than 99.9 percent of the terrorists are Muslim?

Sounds about rightI also believe 99.9% of Muslims are terrorists

[speedz99 145]

Sounds about rightI also believe 99.9% of Muslims are terrorists

I feel bad for non-terrorist Muslims. I feel like both of them should find a new religion that's less violent...maybe Buddhism.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

I feel bad for non-terrorist Muslims. I feel like both of them should find a new religion that's less violent...maybe Buddhism.

Maybe we could start a new religion.The anti-religion religionwe can promise 25 virgins and 25 sluts at death if they give 25% of all cash earned.Who needs 72 virgins. I want some sluts

[sixhands 0]

I have read all the posts in this thread and all I can say is wow.There are a lot of individuals that have very biased views on this topic.Now I admit I am no expert on racial profiling but I would like to put forth this statement for discussion.The "profile" being conducted will only be as good as the person doing it.If a racist is conducting the profile, what do you think the outcome will be?Now I may be way off here but try to answer the following.My wife and I were travelling from the UK back to Canada a little while after 9/11. As usual you hear people whispering about others in the lineup.We were the only ones that were stopped in the whole line up to have our bags checked.Is that accurate racial profiling?

[ajs510 122]

Maybe we could start a new religion.The anti-religion religion

I already belong to that one, it's called Agnostic/Atheist.

[Randy Reed 0]

Maybe we could start a new religion.The anti-religion religionwe can promise 25 virgins and 25 sluts at death if they give 25% of all cash earned.Who needs 72 virgins. I want some sluts

Yeah, being a muslim virgin ain't such a good thing if you think about it.